EMO WAR.
so it all started from an ill informed article in the daily mail.. check it here
then there was the pages of letters in the NME and Kerrang..protesting against the 'EMO' stereotype...
now there's the EMO rangers show on MTV2
and My Chemical Romance are number 1 in the UK charts.
who's side are you on and why? we'll be discussing this on the show on sunday and need your input. What do you think of EMO music? do you think that kids who like EMO are getting an unecessarily hard time? why do you think there's been this sudden backlash? Is this bringing EMO kids closer together?
your thought and opionions please.. and send us your links for the best blogs and sites for emo lovers or haters..
The problem is that hardly any of these "emo" kids are actualy emo. They're just scene kids that will change as soon as its not kl to be emo. What really gets me is how bands like MCR can get away with calling themselves metal.
Complain about this postif you, or anyone, is going to talk about emo music, do NOT EVER mention MCR as they have NOTHING to do with the genre. they are a POP band... just like evrything else in the charts and everything on daytime radio.
and kids trends have nothing to do with it either. most of the kids have never heard an emo band... they just think they have because of media coverage like this.
none of this has anything to do with emo, apart from being a horrible mis-use of the term.
Complain about this postIn 1968 John Lennon sang "Yes I'm lonely, wanna die, if I aint dead already, girl you know the reason why", in the song, "Yer Blues", on the White Album. Was Yoko an EMO?
Whatever floats your boat. It's meant to be a free country, although we know it's not. The self harm aspect is a small minority and can be a cry for help rather than following a fashion. Is the so called EMO backlash exaggerated by the media? As for the Daily Mail's article; it will come in handy in the small room.
Complain about this postTo expand on my earlier comment, all original fashions, music or way of life are eventually attacked by the media, who can be very destructive in their criticism of young people. (The tall poppy syndrome). It could be argued that any fashion, type of music or way of life reflects the world that we live in. They don't just appear out of the blue for no reason at all. They are a reaction to the way things are in the world. We create the environment for them to flourish and then give them a good kicking.
As I said before, what ever floats your boat!
Complain about this postI wouldnt class myself as an emo kid, but they are harmless enough, ok they all look alike, so what.
I don't like the fact a top class newspaper as the Daily Mail would stoop so low as to say emo's all cut themselves, dont people in all walks of life do that?!
Yes emo songs are sad, about death, break ups, lose of people, but the lyrics are meant for comfort so people know there not alone in what they are going through.
When I broke up with an ex I used to listen to Dashboard Confessional alot and that helped me, knowing that people cheat, to people all over the world, and im not alone in how I felt, and I could see things in them lyrics that meant alot to me.
The thing with "emo" now is that it is a fashion more than the music, over the past 3-5 years I've seen them expand alot, where I live in Leeds the local "hang out spot" for them has seen about 10-15 kids hang about chattin with each other to about 40 now.
The music as well it seems any band gets dropped into "emo" if it falls into what the fashion looks like. Bands like Panic at The Disco!, Fall Out Boy, MCR, are NOT emo, there pop-punk.
Bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Dashboard Confessional, Bright Eyes are emo music (to me)
For me I'd rather see a bunch of emo kids walking round than chavs as emo ain't threatening in groups (unlike chavs), their harmless kids who find someone with each other to talk about, they dont all meet up and cut each other and write suicide notes like people would like to think.
Complain about this postGreat article.
Complain about this postoh for god's sake. right, people of all kinds of different subcultures have been getting ragged on for one reason or another for YEARS. The 'emo's aren't the only ones. Victimisation wasn't invented just for them so they can whinge on about it in their livejournals - a wild generalisation maybe, but they do it. i've seen it with my own eyes. So the daily mail wrote a ridiculous piece on Emos... so what?! Since when has the daily mail ever been a bastion for non-reactionary, sensible journalism anyway? and now we've got to put up with more whining about how the supposed 'emos' are being victimised and how everyone hates them... Just suck it up and move on. It happens. Maybe people wouldn't be 'victimised' if they didn't act like victims in the first place!
And this is all because MCR and panic at the disco got booed and bottled at Reading. Have ANY of you people ever stopped to think that maybe that they got bottled and booed (much like the rasmus et al before them) because well.... they're s***e? Nothing to do with being 'Emo' but because they are actually rubbish whatsoever. they're mass produced garbage for the kids who've suddenly decided that rock music is cool.
They're no better than McFly.
Complain about this postI think majority of "emo" kids don't know what "emo" is...they only know mainstream of it...but I do think people should stop being rude about it...I mean, I don't think a "punk" would dig getting hated on by someone because of his tight black jeans and gnarly hair...so...let people be!
Complain about this postI spend this afternoon having a pint with a guy from an emo band who were talking about releasing their album.
This band are in their 20s and they look normal. they are however a non-profit band. they have asked SPECIFICALLY to NOT have their album in major stores or on iTunes. they dont WANT to make any profit. they dont want to use plastic cases... they're human rights activists, they would prefer to release on Vinyl rather than CD, they'd rather not sign a contract, they would rather play shows for free than ask for cash... they dont want more than 500 copies made at one time. ALL they want to do, is play music, and make it available for people to enjoy it if they look. Live.. they mess things up, they jump around, they dont care what they look like or if they get hurt as long as thats what the music makes them feel like doing.
now this is a real emo band with emo values. do 15-year-olds who buy songs from iTunes, spend hours on their hair and wear Converse sond like they have anything to do with this scene?
Complain about this postWho cares about emo and whos not? MCR are a great punk/metal/emo or whatever you want to call them group (NOT pop!).
Complain about this postOmg! I get called emo alllll the time because i listen to that kind of music and have black hair, but i don't think of myself as 'EMO'. If there are people out there that are EMO and want to express it then i think they should. The stereotype is dyed black hair and black eyeliner, skinny jeans etc. but the other stereotype is self-harming which i do not condone in any way! I know people who self-harm because they think it is 'EMO', those people need serious help. But there is also a growing trend of CHAVS! why is no-one writing in the Daily Mail about that? Eurgh!
Complain about this postI had some arrogant music 'rock purist' call me an 'emo' as soon as I stated that I liked the 'My Chemical Romance' track. He said it as if I was a loser, and an outcast. Pah it's music - if you like music whatever it's genre, that's what it's all about. I've listened to other MCR tracks, and to be honest they don't appeal to my taste. Just their big epic pop 'emo' appeals to me.
I don't like genre's it ruins everything, people become loyal to a particular genre, and despise anything else, and people that like anything different to they do. Good music is good music - end of!
Complain about this postemos now, goths a few years back... back in the mid 90's when i was a teenager there were 'grungers' and 'metalers'. kids (and a few adults) are always going to latch on to what's cool. at the moment you have emos and chavs ruling the teen fashion choices. it's always gonna happen, just let them get on with it (you know they'll grow out of it) and stop finding reasons to hate other people
Complain about this postEnd of the day, its all music, no matter what genre, people are guna like it or not like it.
The only thing i can definatley say is that listening to MCR has never made me want to harm myself.
Just let music be music, if you dont like it, turn it off. if you do like it, turn it up!!!!
Complain about this postEMO, who cares at the end of the day everyone likes different music. If people are worried about "emo kids" why waste time and effort moaning about it.
If it is seen as being cool to be emo then it is the media promoting it, i'm sure you've all heard the phrase all publicity is good publicity. If its the bands themselves that people are disliking then dont listen to them. There are more worrying bands in the world then so called emo bands.
Also self harm, every genre has it, its not the music its all people it all walks of live that have bigger problems than the type of bands they listen to. Chavs do it so do the the metal heads so do emo kids so does R'n'B/HipHop genre. The people who self harm, self harm regardless of the music taste.
Long live the freedom of choice!!!
Complain about this posti think that emo has a place in the music scene now but the people that promote this music won't give anything else the same chance. i'm in a band and i feel that playing with "emo" bands, our band could support others well. but the way "emo" fans won't make the same sacrifice to appreciate anything else makes me ask the question, why give them support when it there is no appreciation?
Complain about this postit's all 'pop'. 'pop' music is the music that is popular. everyone needs to get over that. i am a 'pop' music fan, as i love pretty much all the songs in the charts, and always have. this 'emo' thing is ridiculous, who cares? at the end of the day, it's music. it's a band or artist who can create music, and have a talent that should be envied, not fought over. we should embrace it all, not label everything we hear, and everyone we see.
Complain about this postit's just a new form of phoniness (catcher in the rye), if you really wanted to be individual or not conform to society then you would conform to society simply becasue there are more emos, goths, gangsters etc. than there are normal people. take it from me i'm a teenager and the most original thing i can do is conform to society's conventions, retain some sense of normality but show sparks of individuality but in a much more measured and less attention seeking way than wearing converses and wristbands. if you think my views are bigoted or overly critical, good, everyone's entitled to a view and just becasue i don't think it's right doesn't mean i will actually take action against emos, so none of this it's my right crap ok.
Complain about this postwell personally i love the "EMO" fashion, the kinda gothic but not look rocks my socks! Although I dnt lyk the way "EMOS" think about depression and harming themselves, its slightly depressing. You could say im just a regular teenager going through a faze and is copying others, but i can assure you im not. Yea its become popular now to be "EMO" but i only dress that way because its me and its who i am. I dont lyk it when ppl take the micky out of them, being "EMO" is just a simple way of expressing emotions and experimenting with fashion. Which is what i'm doing and loving every minute of it XD btw MCR rocks and are NOT POP!
Complain about this posti think the music is cool, there is nothing wrong with that, each to there own. BUT the clothes and attitudes are scary for older people and some small children, people should be allowed to wear what they want but nothing which is going to upset the general public. they should change into something sensible and respectable: for example a pair of jeans (blue) and a jumper (not emo black). in 5 years time they will only regret making themselves look scary and wierd! this is my outlook anyway
Complain about this postlove tom xxx
I would like to comment on Christopher Rhodes addition to this debate. i listen to MCR, the kooks, razorlight. well abit of everything really. i am not emo/chav or in any catagory what so ever. i find it offensive that he thinks chavs are intimidating as every teenager dresses like this. the hoodys, baseball caps, tracky bottoms and trainers. i find goths intimidating in all their black clothes and make up. maybe its because they stand out so much, but there is always huge groups of them hanging around.
i wear what i like and listen to any music that i decide i like. im not any of these things so how can people say all people that listen to MCR are emo? it cant have gotten to number 1 with only the emo community buying the CD!!!
additional comment: can everyone please stop refering to people who wear tracky bottoms as chavs! i wear them because they are comfy and practicle not because i want to mug old ladies!
Complain about this postmost emo's dont self harm, alot of ppl who are goths who i know have done and alot of normal ppl have, im not saying goths or emos arent normal they're just different in a good way! lets just face it the ppl at the daily mail are scare mongering for parents like sally off coro who dont know or understand wot emo or metal or goth is about and who cares if vogue has a spread on goth, most goths wont be reading it!!
Complain about this postWhat a heap of shmuck.
Complain about this postI have always enjoyed listening to rock and metal music. As i got older my music taste got heavier. Now i listen to Marilyn Manson and Rammstein, however i do not wear make-up or black clothes and hang celtic crosses round my neck. I listen to that sort music because it is the stlye of music that i am into, it is not a way of life.
Complain about this postyeah so the article in the paper was a load of tripe, ill informed tripe that was used to fill some pages and an attempt to keep in tune with the youth of today. the emo debate as its being called is quite frankly getting tedious. the emo of today isnt the emo of a few years ago, its just a scene and a fashion trend that has snowballed. it happened a few years ago with the rise of nu metal, except the rival chav phenomenon wasnt so big back then. the so called emo bands at the moment are in fact pop punk, or just plain pop. as a music lover i have no problem with these bands introducing people to music, and being a stepping stone to better, more talented bands and artists. the word emo is obviously short for emotion, and the emo genre in fact stems from the american hardcore scene, but slightly lighter and punkier. none of the current bands being tagged with that label are emo, and i hate that word being applied to bands that are in fact post-hardcore or straight punk bands. just because a song is catchy doesnt make it emo, or because the band members happen to wear converse doesnt make them emo. the emo of today is a fashion scene, plain and simple. and it will be over soon once the kiddies realise how rubbish some of the "awesome" bands are, or high street shops stop stocking tight jeans. its not a bad thing, its just a fashion cycle, combined with a mutual appreciation for music among the people.
Complain about this postIt's all a fad, one big fad. Weather your a greasy "metaller", a wining "emo" or a pill popping "chav", your all just latched on to one big fad.
The thing that amuses me most about "emo" followers, is they take pride in denying that they are "emo". They obviously love the attention, and think after a few months of wearing skinny fit, they are too cool to be called "emo", and they are just being themselves. Really, they just love worshiping thier peers, people who were into "emo" first. 95% of the people you see who have latched on to this temporary fad of fashion disaster are really not being themselves, they are doing it because they have seen so many others above them doing it, but of course, they are still being really really original.
Im not sure how long it will continue to grow, but its demise is imminent. Anyone over the age of 16 who still gets sucked into trends really need's to grow up. My advice is just to ignore them, don't give them the satisfaction of thinking they are "emo", they love it, thats what they want, ignore them and they will go away with any luck.
My Chemical Romance, well, they are just rubbish. Stupidly simple music, for the simple mind. Posing as heartfelt musicians, making music for the posers.
Word x
Complain about this postemo's rok
Complain about this postEmo kids are not as most people would think (quiet, self hating, introverts) and certainly nearly every emo i've ever spoken to or hung around with (not through my own want) have been loud, irritating and about as funny as famine in the third world (although they think they're hilarious). So it is of my opinion that the emo kids who cut themselves, or are difficult, or refuse to smile at anyone and claim their style is "different" when its the exact same as all the other emo kids' style are crying out for attention. It is partly down to the music but im sure if asian music started being the music for the people who are "different" there'd be the exact same kids dressed in saris and turbans.
But thats just my view!
Complain about this postnight night
My Chemical Romance new album is a lot more metal than their old tracks... much more EMO.
Emo people like Jon said... will change they are all the same people who change their style to follow like sheep.
People should be making their own music and celebrate peel.
Cheers
Complain about this postJonathan
I have to agree with Alex as, in my experience, all the kids that fit into the 'emo' style (in my limited view) almost always deny that is what they are. What is a real emo? Has it been lost forever?
In my opinion the Emo thing is yet another set of guidelines that people can use to legitimately live/act a certain way. By no means is 'emo' the only one around, there are plenty, and there will continue to be.
It's a perfect way to be androgynous and loud and opinionated with bad (as in chopped) haircuts and hug everyone every five minutes.
Maybe it's not such a bad thing? Perhaps they are representative of an extremist part of our society where being depressed and down is OK, since in most mainstream society it's not considered that healthy, and is glossed over. Advertising taken into consideration here.
Yet another pigeon hole. Are we happy about that?
Complain about this postI'm at college in the states and EMO seems to be much bigger here than it is in England. People seem split here too; some people hate it and some love it. One thing that it does do is speak to people who don't fit in anywhere else, which is great, it leads to a really open and tollerant group dynamic.
The self harm stereotype is slightly misinformed. It is more prevelent in the EMO community but that is more down to the community welcoming the victims and accepting him/her than it causing the problem. I, for one, have found so called EMO kids more friendly and accepting than most other groups of people I've enountered.
I think that if EMO makes people feel that they have a group of friends and supports them through a difficult time all power to it. What's more it seems to attrat a very talented group of people and if the music's good; who cares.
Complain about this postIts all down to stereotyping and generalisation of youth today again.....my son loves Panic! and was at the secret MCR gig in London.....but he doesn't dress in black, neither is he a manic depressive self-harmer. I think at MCR he had Roberto Cavalli on!! Check him out in this weeks NME pic!
Actually.......I'll be joining him to see Panic! on Monday at Brixton and I'll be seeing MCR in November at Brixton and next March at Wembley!
I was, however, horrified at the bottling incident at Reading. We all like different things....why bottle Brendon? If you don't like Panic! why not go watch someone else
I did think this was a country of free choice.....
Complain about this postI don't want this comment posted but for God's sake get your grammar right - it's "Whose side are you on?" not who's.
Complain about this postI would like to say that I dislike emos extremely. They seem to think that they are being different in being so, but they are all the same - people like me, the intelligent ones, are far more unique and far less offensive. There are many times more people who want to be emo than those who want to be the quiet, intelligent type. But (apart from now if you wish to count this, which I do not), we do not shout out about it, and we do not try to seem different from everyone else.
Complain about this postWhats the big deal whether they are EMO or not? You either like the song or you don't and as it is number 1 it would seem that enough people like it.
Complain about this postI thought the Daily Mail article was a load of garbage and a gross generalisation. I also think the label 'emo' is laughable. Can't people listen to a certain type of music without being labelled or stereotyped? Who even classes what 'emo' is anyway? Why can't people just listen to music they like, dress the way they like without getting a hard time. I like My Chemical Romance because I like their songs, not because they're 'emo'. I don't care what genre they are, they make good songs. They've certainly never made me want to harm myself. I think that's a mental issue and the few people I know who do it listen to dance and RnB, not rock or 'emo' or metal or whatever the hell you want to call it. As for the comment someone made about 'wearing converses'- it's just the same generalisation that every stupid person has. I wear converses not because I like so called 'emo' music or because I like 'indie' music, but because I LIKE THE SHOES! THEY'RE COMFY! The same with wearing black! I wear black because I don't like wearing bright colours. I don't like to stand out. I'm a shy person and I think bright colours would draw attention to myself. I don't take it to the extreme. I haven't got black hair, I haven't got long enough nails to paint them black and I wear eyeliner because I think it defines the best part of my body, my eyes. So get over yourself and enter the real world of normal people, who don't want to be labelled.
Complain about this postThe fussy, half Scottish side of me made me write this-
Complain about this postSam Cannon, I thought your comment was really well written and I agree to an extent, BUT emo isn't only in England, it's in the rest of the UK, ie- Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, all the islands and that. Great Britain. I wish people would stop calling it England.
Emo -- I beleive this is a stereotype, but then again, I can't really say stuff like that, because I get classed as an Emo at school. I beleive if Emo's slit their wrists, its just plain stupid, but everyone has Emo inside them!
Just the thing that H said...MCR are no way a POP band, Im sorry but if you beleive they are, then you need to have ur brain re-scanned!!! They are Punk/Emo rock!
Complain about this posthiya there, im in the royal navy, it is a very hard job, but i feel the best kind of music to listen to to relax to is emo, eg my chem, aiden and atreu. im not an emo but i have a lot of very good emo mates, im also in a emo band, and the kind of music we write is awsome its about life experiences just like every other emo band, why not try get rid if all the chavs who seem to have a problem!
Complain about this postok.....
who cares if someone is an emo or not.. really... does it matter... no
and as for the music... if it sounds good listen to it... if you dont like it dont listen to it.... if you're undecided then who cares...
its easy when you think about it....
be what you want to be.. do what you want to do..like what you want to like...
Complain about this postmany kids these days aren't actually emo they are all SCENE!!!! this is even worse they dont actually like or agree with the music they just dress as emo so they fit in and think they are cool. some kids even self harm so they fit in just right. while some people are genuinly in to this genre of music and the lifestyle most kids aren't .they are just wannabe s that dont fit in any where else and are just jumping on the emo bandwagon to look cool
Complain about this postI must say, my only issue with the emo sub-culture is that it makes selfharm fashionable. And i can say this with experience as many of my friends have followed the trend and showed off all their cuts and scars. I think people should realise self harm isnot the way forward and hurts the people close to you, there isnothing worse than makingit fashionable.
Complain about this postTodays EMO seems to have been very much mixed with yesterdays Goth genre. This misunderstanding however does appear to of created over past few years it own scene/genre in it’s own right.
Emo did seem to stand for bands like “Texas is the Reason”, “The Promise Ring”, “American Football”, etc. where these bands touched on and came from an Indie background.
Bands like “Boy Sets Fire” were labelled as “EMO” also despite sounding very different from the previously mentioned bands.
From here on in it appeared that “EMO” can probably prefix any music genre. Being Hardcore, Punk or Goth (and more …probably).
It’s the scene that makes it and despite my feelings that “EMO” prefix has been misused and misunderstood it still down to The Kids to be the scene and I hope that the bands will still carry on doing it for The Kids whatever the style of music.
Complain about this postFor the most part I totally agree with Mazzie Mogwai & H for their input, totally knocked the nail on the head.
Since I actually hate emo bands but thats just because i dislike the music, I can also say I dislike the new emo's also...and when I say emo's I mean the kids who were goths last summer but have since started using Garnier Fructis Wave Gel or something to get that perfect eye covering hair and invested in some new converse all stars as well as taking photos of themselves to stick on myspace. The fact is that kids that age will leach onto any new fad, the truth is they are trying to be cool and are totally lost in who they are...its sad but so true.
I am a surfer and spend alot of time travelling to non-pop influenced countries and its so refreshing to meet regular people who have no agenda. I visited london about 6 months ago and I wanted to leave straight away due to these emo kids being everywhere, some even heckling people for wearing a suit.....i just couldnt believe what i was seeing, utter disgrace.
I just hate the way they think they are so different from the normal person who wears a suit and has a respectable job when steadily the emo is becoming a majority, i could honestly rant on about this for a long time but it annoys me even talking about it.
Im going surfing now and never coming back.
P.s. someone please shut down myspace.com its the lamest thing i have ever seen. Peace.
Complain about this postThe way i see it is that everything has come full circle! 25 years ago we had the new romantics with their "wierd" clothes and make up. The only thing i have to complain about is a small minority of "emo" kids (who are most probably just scene kids) who have such an attitude problem and believe that being depressed is cool! im not an emo kid but i listen to emo music just as i listen to prog rock, metal, punk, jazz, blues etc.
Complain about this postI find it quite funny that an article from the Daily Mail will get everyone starting a debate. The article just seems to be another rant at any fashion trend that comes along that they don't like and they have probably realised that the fashion industry isn't listening to them going on about the 'size 0 tragedy'. What I do find alarming is that they seem to want everyone to point and laugh at the 'EMOs'. They say that 'EMOs' are exibitionists and that this is wrong but have the paper themselves not just put the wehole thing out for the rest of the country to see, if anything you are doing the very thing you are critisising. They might as well just shove a list of people that bullies can pick on kin school because the media thinks says it's ok to. EMO is a choice you either go with it or you don't. We have to listen to the Daily Mail rant on about how bad Heather Mills is when most of the population has more important things to think about so why can't they deal with the fact that some kids are not going to grow up 'the right way' and vote conservative when they are old enough. Get over it!
If you are going to judge at least do some proper research and not just skim the latest thing to come out. All you have is MCR and Russell Brand, if I was then I'd sack my researcher. Look at Dashboard Confessional, Bright Eye, Taking Back Sunday etc and you'll find that the lyrics are about heartbreak an not how to top yourself.
Complain about this postThe problem is not the music - I know lots of kids my age (15) who listen and enjoy the music. Bands like Green Day and MCR are not EMO themselves, but the EMO culture is using them as an excuse for themselves and their so-called style. If you are looking for bands who are to blame for this culture, you'll struggle to find any! I would have to agree with Gregg's comment about how the label EMO seems to be tagged to anything remotely heavy or punky
Complain about this postYo, even if emo's dont self harm..........I will harming them with my emo slaying!
SAY NO TO EMO...
Complain about this postI still don't understand what an emo is!
Complain about this postIt's considered an insult at my school. No-one is proud of being an emo and gets really offended if they are called one.
And as for it being an abbreviation of emotional, who doesn't have emotions?!
Hey, i like EMO music and so do a load of my mates! We all sing along to it on the bus! Why is this such a big subject?! Most of my mates like emo music, emo is just a different type of music. Whats the problem?!
Complain about this postI think that being an emo is good and bad. It is good as it makes you feel better however emo's can seriusly hurt themselves by doing what they do. Oh well i don't really care what they do they can do what they like because there not going to listen!
Complain about this postwho cares everyone fits into different groups,
Complain about this postwhether it be goth, emo, greb, chav, skater, indy.
it dosnt really matter does it?
Complain about this postHi
Even though i mainly listen to 'emo' music and some death metal and electronica, i don't class myself as emo. I think that people who think someone else is 'emo' or whatever,they should keep their mouths shut and not class someone which they dont want to be classed as.Why cant we just be ourselves and not have these ridiculous stereotypes.
Phew!
what an essay.
bye!
linsey
xx
One word t describe that article: Rubbish. Having read it, I've seen several traits I recognise in myself - a liking for Green Day (who were emo since when exactly?) and My Chemical Romance, the dyed hair, the black nail polish, the eyeliner, the poetry reading and writing - something tells me being an English student wouldn't hold up as a valid excuse for that - the horror movie fandom (oh, so girls aren't allowed to like being scared now rather than watching love stories are we?), the guitar playing. And Lily Allen an emo? Don't make me laugh! Yet despite the opinion of people who barely know me, if it all, I do not define myself as emo because of a few sweeping generalisations by a newspaper that is clearly stuck in the 1950s.
Being in a minority because of various personal beliefs, I understand the conflicting need to express one's individuality and to belong to a group that is so prevalent as a teen. Emos, goths, indie kids - call them what you will - are merely rebelling against chav culture. Personally I'd rather have a youth culture of arty kids who are musically inclined towards heartbreak than one of - based purely on the chavs I know of, to counteract those who accuse me of being hypocritical due to my dislike of sweeping generalisations - getting drunk, getting laid, and looking to start a fight at every opportunity. And be honest, how many 'bouncy' chavs do you know?
Complain about this postBeatnik, Punk, Grebs, Goth, Emo, its all been done before!
Complain about this postIts just a uniform to express your musical tastes whilst allowing kids to feel like they belong to something and have something in common. I was a goth in the 80's and it was all about a combined package of the uniform, music, likeminded people and of course to worry your parents to death. The press always blow everything out of proportion and its easier if everything is labelled and pigeon holed. It was the same with Mods and rockers in the 60's.
Its just chavs and emos now!
emos rule...and one day they will rule the earth! All chavs bewarned!
People give emos a hard time but there is nothing wrong with being emo...people wrongly label people and i think it needs to stop!
Complain about this postwhy do people have to stereotype? whatever clothes and music you listen to people always judge you. why do people judge? i think people have the right to dress as they want without the looks they get!!! people should be who they want to be!
Complain about this postThis new "trend" isn't even emo....
Emo was a sub genre of punk/hardcore in the mid/late 80's early 90's. Bands like Rites of Spring, The Promise Ring + The Get up kids.
This new stuff is pop/rock aimed at teenage boys and girls. Its more about black make up and hair gel than any musical content.
Emo in this modern context is far too broad to be thrown around and attatched to one band.
Amazing Prog rock bands like "At the Drive In" and "These Arms are Snakes" could be considered emo in the old conventional sense but they're leagues ahead of theatrical fluff like MCR.
I suppose the public gets ahold of these terms and just reinvents them as they see fit so I wont spend too much time complaining......
Anythings better than modern R&B + commercial hip hop though!
Complain about this postThis is an article in the Daily Mail. I think that people should not take it to seriously am just supprised they did not try to blame immigrants or single mother for this new trend.
My sentiment is live and let live viv la differance
Complain about this postI'm not an emo my self but a few of my m8s are and i do like alot of there music and i like alot of punky music aswell soi neva had anything against emos
Complain about this postI myself like Emo music. By this Im referring to Emotional hardcore like Waterdown and older UnderOATH. NOT under any circumstances are My Chemical Romance Emo and never have been, they're gothic punk, just like Aiden and the Misfits. It's a shame that bands like Hawthorne Heights are represented as Emo as they awful.
The people often referred to as Emo's and ridiculed are not infact Emo's, but what are reffered to as "Scene Kids" by the hardcore crowd.
Both the public and the media are to blame for this ignorance and misrepresentation (especially by The Daily Mail).
Emotional hardcore was started in the Washington hardcore scene by people like Ian Mckaye after Minor Threat split up. After years , people started to classify bands 'Emo' just because they have similar appearances to Hardcore bands. Does the fringe on Bloc Party's Russel make him 'Emo'? Of course not, nor does it make self-harm.
The unfortunate link with Emo to self harm is also wrong. Although a minority will (like any stereotype), they just happen to be more open about it , which is good as this is likely to draw help. Most mentions of self-harm in 'emo' music is metaphorical (example: Hawthorne Heights-Ohio Is For Lovers)
With Emo becoming more popular over the years , a backlash (although exaggerated- a couple of attempted bottlings and a tabloid article are hardly a revolt) is is inevitable, it happened with Garage, Nu-Metal and New Wave. The only difference being that these genres were fads, Emotional hardcore has been around 30 odd years and is too deep-rooted to die. Ill gove it 6 months before "War on New Rave- Death to Klaxons!"
Complain about this postemo means emotional music yea? well then thats almost everything isnt it! Its just the 'fashion' kids nowadays will follow just like any other trend thru the 70s 80s 90s or watever, nothin special just a reinvention of other fashions with a name and stereotype. I dont think half of us around 18/19 really new about it until late school years/college and then it was only people that wer insecure (mainly) that hopped on the band wagon and developed the trend. It is in human nature to be unoriginal because we are the only living thing that can imitate (watch animal documentarys!) even monkeys cant copy another monkey, so this thing about emos trying to be original, in actual fact they'r just following human nature!
theres no such thing as emo as a specific thing if anything but a word that ppl just throw around carelessly and in some cases hurtfully because of such bad stigma attatched to these supposed people! as long as 'emo' isnt hurting anyone then its not really problem, i guess some people love to hate stuff dont they, english people are renowned for that!
Complain about this postI think that emo music rules, i love my chemical romance and bands like that, and i like emo and im not having an unecessarily "hard time" and i have lots of emo mates.
Complain about this posthey there....me and my friends all listen to emo music but this does not mean were emo...we think emo's do get a hard time...
im not part of the fashion trend of an emo...i wear what the hell i want...i would even go as far as sometimes sayin i look like a chav...
yet i get slated for the music i listen to...
this music means a hell of a lot to me.
fortunately i dont go thru all the suffering that emo's apparently do...but i do get an insight from listening to the music about what they are goin thru and how hard it is...
even though that is not directly associated with emo's....anyone could want to kill themselves or slit their wrists or whatever the hell emo's apparently like to do.
people should be proud of who they are....if emo's are proud of who they are then why are they gettin so much crap from the media and the british public...
music wise...considered emo...i dont agree myself...but fall out boy, panic! at the disco, taking back sunday, my chemical romance etc etc are the big thing right now...if they werent about then the music industry would be in a bit of a slump...
also i recently read an article in the sun about more people going to gigs these day than they were 5-10 years ago....this must be thru the uprise of emo/punk music.
yes emo will probably phase out in the next few years and something new will come in...and get slated...
Complain about this postthe british media and the british public...so judgemental
I LOVE EMO MUSIC. I DONT CARE WHO NO'Z IT I DO. JUST BECAUSE U LISTLEN TO EMO MUSIC DOESNT MEAN U ATTEMPT SUCIDE AS MANY OF MY FRIENDS THINK. I HAVE BEEN CLASIFED AS AN EMO BECAUSE I ABSOLUTLEY LOVE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE. I LOVED DEM FOR BOUT A YEAR NOW.
Complain about this postTHIS PROB AVE NUFIN D DO WIV D CONVO BUT I SAW A ARTICLE ON MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE SO I WENT ON IT.
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I get a bit confused about this...where is the issue I listen to folk and I don’t get dressed as a Morris dancer, listen to country and the cowboy hat stays off, the list can go on...Its meant to be about listening and appreciating music, even the bad stuff has its place. It’s when people are more concerned with the image they portray by following the latest trend of fusion/music. I find subjects like this damage the credibility if the music industry in the way that, I’m sure these people were the same before donning the EMO getup unfortunately its cool to be uncoil so yet again a new fusion trend is born, bands will rise to the top as the ultimate musical fusion accessory and then a new "revolution" will occur and then a whole new classification will be brought about. I Guess what I’m trying to say Goth has been around for ages, the musical influence will always be there its just a method of "creating" a new classification to make it cool whereas what is actually happening is that its recycling what’s already there.
I'm just here to enjoy the music, I don’t care how I look when I do it, as soon as vanity gets in the way your choices are no longer impartial or open to new things....damn that fashion influence on music!
Complain about this postIs it just me but not only is this article poorly written but goes about what everybody in the world is encouraged to avoid. Stereotyping. If I'm actually honest with you, the gang of 'children of lost youth' who hang around the Norwich Forum on a Saturday afternoon annoy me (probably moreso because I am not 16 anymore!), but nonetheless they are harmless. It is after all, a trend. Let's make no bones about it, we've all had our own trends we all adhered to in our youth (I went through a skater boy look thing 10 years ago when I was 16) but again, that's all it is. Anyway, the 'children of lost youth' will continue to listen to their 'emo' music bought for them by their parents as all us trendies carry on smiling & enjoying the ride!
Complain about this postThat article read like it was written by a 12 year old.
"Teenage girls are frightened of manliness: they like boys who look like girls. Kate Moss, the girl who never grows old, understands youthful taste completely."
"Who are the male pin-ups for young girls? Johnny Depp and the comedian Russell Brand, who is about 90 per cent Goth. Lord Byron, of course, was the greatest Goth of all time."
What research are these statements based on? Russel Brand is goth (90%) because he wears black?..
This is all just one person's narrow minded view of a youth-culture she doesn't understand or connect to on any level?
The daily mail is the paper of scandal, hate-mongering, and scare-mongering.
Complain about this postWho are these people telling parents how to bring up their kids? what would they rather have? everyone getting drunk and drugged on the street or kids being safely up in their rooms. This sort of music does not advise kids to slit their wrists or keep their curtains closed or wear tight clothing i have never come across a song that does. What about all these songs that advise kids to drink and do drugs? these are much more important things to critisise i hope the reporter feels ashamed of themselves for calling my chemical romance when they have made it to number 1.
Complain about this postIt’s always struck me as a funny old contradiction, that music, a medium which (obviously) asks much more of the ears than it does of the eyes, seems preoccupied with pleasing the peepers, sometimes at the expense of producing something that sounds pleasing.
Now, I don’t want to get in to any debate about what is or what isn’t ‘emo’. It’s far too easy to apply any genre template. Buzz words and poorly researched media hypes is no substitute for experience. I say don’t get confused about the music and culture—they can be separate things.
As Ms. Sands points out there is plenty in the generation that experienced Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Rocky Horror Show—was all the imagery they promote healthy?
Now self harm is a whole different melting pot of controversy. I believe that there might be a few other social problems that cause people to resort to self harm.
‘…dangerous teenage cult’
Sounds like scapegoating to me…..
But that’s just my opinion
Complain about this postum... does it really matter?? Each to their own, right? Oh, and MCR are not pop. Don't lie. You liers. Yes but anyway, emo's do all look the same, but they do look quite cool. And yes, it is all mainstream emo. But I am a wannabe punk, so should I really be commenting?!?!?!?!?!
Well... 'Mon The Fratellis, anyhoo.
Luff you emo's.... hehe
Complain about this postEmo's Are Really Disturbing! We Have Them In Our School And The Way They Dress And The Makeup They Use Is Discusting. The Way They Threaten To Kill Them Selves Is Really Discusting!! They Efeect The Way We Act In School!!!!! Chavs ForLife!!!!!!! Dani xxxxx
Complain about this postYo, I think that emoism is very bad people think there cool to be uncool but there not induviduel coz about 100 other people are like that.
Complain about this postSO SAY NO TO EMOISM
Just to let people know before i go on i'm 21 and listen to MCR, Marilyn Manson etc and probably fit into the norm society with the way i dress. So how do you class me?
What is it with people EMO is just a word and a meaningless one at that. So many people judge poeple by the way the look. WHY? OK so some people want to be different from the norm (which i have to say can be pretty boring) what is wrong with that. Because someone says its not normal its wrong. It won't be long before the world turns back into Nazi Germany with uniformity. As it goes for music people are free to listen to what they want and if certain music makes people happier so be it.
The Daily Mail needs to do more research before it prints another article like that. All the news wants to do these days is make things up to get people talking. Like claiming Marilyn Manson makes people go into schools and shoot people. Hey I listen to his music and i don't want to do that. And thats my point the news and poeple for that matter always want to put the blame on something and music is the easiest option. EMO at the moment is that word in music that is getting bad publicity saying that kids are self harming because of it. Wrong Kids are self harming mainly becasue of family issues, bullying etc not EMO. And i don't want to bring MCR into this but hey they try and help people with their lryics and so many kids have said how they have helped them through tough times.
That is all i have to say
Complain about this postTo be quite honest, i've been classed as an EMO for a while now but I don't really care, I listen to the music because i enjoy it and isn't that the main thing? This "EMO" topic has only developed in the last few years, making it just like the "Rock 'n' Roll" craze and such like. Its music and people should not be stereotyped because of the music they listen too.
Let the music do the talking!!
Complain about this postKenney (Edinburgh)
the word "emo" has been over-stereotyped.
emo is a music genre that does not include bands like my chemical romance. mcr are a band that have become mainstream through making themselves commercial, and i would never class them as emo, there pop for petes sake.
people who call themselves emo kids think that bands like mcr and panic and the disco are emo, and they dress as appropriate. this is fast becoming the problem. they do not know what real emo music is, they only know what's played on the radio, or shown on music channels. they dress how they like, to reflect their musical tastes, but as i say, most of them only associate emo with bands like mcr and panic.
its completely diabolical that suicide and self harming is being assiciated with the stereotype "emo" and is so wrong.
people are too quick to judge and stereotype these days, and take to new trends like fish to water.
it's a phase, it'll pass.
Complain about this postEMO is a very big stereo type involving dress sence, hair styles and musical interests. people also associate EMO's with self harm, saying that EMO is short for "emotionaly disturbed". This is not true. I have been called an EMO because of the way i dress and the way i have my hair and also what i listen to. I hate being branded with the stereo type of EMO. I am and individual, and so are all of those people who are associated with EMO's.
Complain about this postim for emo they rock! panic @ the disco rock even though they sey dat dey rnt emo.... they r bt hu cares!
Complain about this posti no lots of "emos" they are nice people who are going throu hard times and people are makein life worst for them by doin things like this so i think they should Quit
Complain about this postThis blame on emo* is another escape goat. As Maralyn manson was...as video games were as TV was.
People need to stop blaming things for their own mistakes. I personally are classed as "emo" but it doesnt define me, the clothes i wear , the hair cut i have says very little about my self. If peolpe want to judge others due to jeans and hair cuts they are the losers.
My chemical romance rnt even that emo , by the steriotypical definition. Look at bands like Dashboard or second hand serande. People need to grow up and research things properly.
p.s. emo music i dont think is depressing...indie stuff is.
Lauren
Complain about this post"emo kid"
who is not going to go cry in the corner.
I don't get emo 'music' at all or as they call it 'emotional punk'. it sucks!! why do people listen to a screamy whiney American 19 year old lad telling them to hurt themselves because his girlfriend hates him, whiles playing power chord after power chord and failing at a 'killer solo'. half the kids that dress up and hang around in groups with knives in there pockets just incase they feel the need to 'relieve themselves' thinking less of every other person around them and shouting for attention because they deserve it... Besides its not about the music, its about the stupid clothes and black eyeliner, which isnt music.
listen to somthing decent....
Complain about this postTo "H" to spoke to a real EMO band... if they are an fine example of this genre then it is doomed to die as they are ill-informed and simply stupid.
If they are so anti plastic cases/cds - why are they releasing on VINYL - A PLASTIC.
You ruined a good post by that show of stupidity.
Complain about this postAs for EMO's, it is fashionable for pre-teens, before that the 90's it was something else. It deosn't mena that the genre should be laughed at because it appeals to a mass audience.
For some reason, the media and socially intolerant people feel the need to pigeon hole anyone who doesn't fit the "normal" and comfortable stereotypes. According to the Daily Mail, I fit into the adult goth category though I would hardly consider myself to look the part these days.
Everyone has a right to express themselves and doing so during the teenage years is, and always been a sign of individuality or just to follow the crowd. I was always happy as a teenage goth as I stood out from the masses as having made a choice of my own. Sure, I got abuse (verbal mostly) but I wasn't miserable, didn't live in the dark and wasn't uncomunicative.
The so called "Emos" of today are just the latest way for people who choose to do so, to express themselves in a certain way. When I was young, there were casuals, goths, rockers, squares. I don't think it has any bearing on whether or not you decide to self harm. I knew plenty of goths and not one of them did this. Most young folk will choose to slot themselves into one of the pigeon holes or another. All of them probably have the few who could be used as a worst case scenario to label all the rest.
Leave the emos and all the rest of them alone. What harm are they doing to the rest of us?
Complain about this postEmo has been around for a long time and no one knew what it was and now suddenly eveyone uses the term emo, mostly as an insult, it is also now the latest trend but what annoys me the most is the fact that people can call my chemical romance as an 'emo' band and not relise that when you listen to their songs, its not emo at all, they don't even associate themselves as part of the sudden emo craze. they are much better than that, they are a category of their own. a damn good one at that.
What is emo anyway?
people who cut themselves? this is a very serious matter and shouldnt be taken lightly, so everyone who is suicidal or cut themselves is emo.
People who write poetry or songs that is emotional? So most famous poets and song writers are emo, because lets face it most poems and songs are based on love. right?
People who wear stripey socks maybe?
People can like and think what they want without being critisied.
Complain about this postemo's( or as i call them emu's) all have one thing in common, they are all trying to be so different that they all become so similar, their wrists and black across-the-face-hair and hate of 'chavs' really does get tiring. i dont see why blood pouring from your wrists is something to be proud of, all this attention seeking gets boring, and have u ever noticed not one of them is smiling? it really doesnt sound like a fun idea to be engrossed(sp) in.
and to whoever mentions heartbreak, we all go through it, except the emu culture indulge in razor blades and self harm as opposed to seeking real help like counselling or making friends.
Complain about this postI think that 'emo' is very stereotypical and i dont agree with labelling. People say that Emos slit their wrist and are always depressed which is not always true for the majority of them. I listen to 'emo'music only i dont like heavy emo music because it makes me unhappy. It stands for emotional although aren't everyone?
Complain about this postI think the whole 'debate' is a load of bo***cks! As a middle class 21 year old woman I guess I'm not the target audience for 'EMO' music, but I really enjoy it. Everyone seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be about the music, not silly little children who are influenced by it! A lot of so called 'EMO' bands like Panic! At the Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical ROmance etc just make really good, catchy, tunes and they shouldnt be labelled and put down because of it. I think it's the stupid little kids who take the lyrics and the band's image too seriously that are the real problem here!
Complain about this post'Emo' or emotional, started off a as a music genre to show that the lyrics & the music that complimented them were about emotions.
Complain about this post'Emo' has been so over exaggerated recently.
Being 'emo' is about being sucicidal, self harming, or anything that people associate with emos, including wearing black.
I could call myself 'emo' as I tend to be an emotional person - but then again everyone is emotional. We all feel happiness, sadness, pain, joy etc etc.
I only read a part of the article in the Daily Mail, but I strongly disagree with it.
At the end of the day, 'emo' is associated to music that talks about emotions and reality, not people.
Emo is a fad. Its teenages who love attention, and teenagers who long for friendship and in reality there is nothing wrong with a group of teenagers who want friends who feel the same as them
Complain about this postMat
Xxxx
it really anoys me the need we have to classify everything.
What is wrong with being ecletic.
I like such a wide range of music and i dress how my mood dictates.
I am proud of that.
I am going to watch panic at the disco on monday at brixton academy and i am so excited, and a friend started going on about me being emo
yes i like some "emo" music and sometimes i dress similarly.
But i also listen to drumb and bass, classical, and r'n'b.
I dont see what our fasonation with labels is.
Wes hould be who we are
Individuals!!!!
Complain about this postlyssa
in cornwall
Why do people take "emo" so seriously. People can be whatever they want to be. Look like whatever they want to. Listen to what ever type of music they like.
It's always the war against emo.
Why is it never against punks, goths or chavs?
And regarding the My Chemical Romance issue, yes most of their fans are emo, but that doesnt mean the band are! They are just a great band who write songs about things that have happened or affected them in their lives.
Complain about this postWhat's wrong with that?!
emo rule
Complain about this postwhat on earth does EMO stand for.
Bloody kids!
Complain about this posthttp://www.fourfa.com/
Please learn what 'emo' is before starting a debate on it, Radio 1.
Complain about this postExactly. That word should be banned. Nobody knows what it is really. Too over used.
Complain about this postYet another attempt to create a sterotype based on very little fact and plenty of supposition and downright incorrect information. I'm 37, a fan of My Chemical Romance, Green, Day, FFaF. My first big musical influences were The Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, so where on earth do i fit in?
My first exposure to My Chemical Romance was the song I'm Not OK and it came to me in a point in life where I wasnt OK ( I Promise). This song was one of the things that encouraged me to acknowldge my problems, to speak out and take steps to get things done. Far from self harming, it was my self help anthem, along with the Killers Mr Brightside.
IMO this kind of article does little for the credibility of the author or the publication that printed it.
Complain about this postI am pro EMO!!! I am especially a fan of MCR. I think that EMO does bring people closer together especially at EMO gigs, it makes people feel happier in my opinion. My sister and I are both EMO fans and always play some EMO whilst getting ready for a night out as it cheers us up - we can't help belting out the tunes and dancing around like a couple of mad heads!
Complain about this postIm not emo, but love the music. my hair n clothes arent in any way influenced by bands like My Chemical Romance or Lostprophets. Emo is here to stay. Get used to it.
Complain about this postThe Daily Mail article is brilliant. I love reading this nonsense; makes me glad to live in this country. With moral guardians like this to keep me and mine out of harm's way I can look forward to a long and happy life of knitting patterns and nice cups of tea.
Complain about this postPersonally I don't like the label Emo, don't much like the label grunge, punk, grime...actually I don't much like labels of any description. Music is music and if you like it then who's to say whether you're wrong or not? It strikes me that this is another part of the long running saga of whether media can ever be held responsible for the actions of individuals. I guess that you could argue that hip-hop is far more dangerous than "emo" seeing as how it's violence against others that is being advocated rather than (alleged) violence against self.
We seem to hear a lot about people's "rights" these days. Certainly a lot more than we did maybe ten years ago. What we don't hear as much about though are our responsibilities. It's all about personal resonsibility. You want to start blaming music for the actions of individuals? Rubbish, let them look in a mirror first.
The thing that seriously irritates me, and reminds us of the daily mail's marvellous sensationialism, is the use of the extreme consequences of being "emo"- that being the "self harming" element of it- and them reporting it as the ONLY consequence of being emo...
As the paper correctly states (and that being one of the few things that is correct) emo is short for emotional, however, as usual, and with that delightful hint of melancholy, extremism and somewhat trademark forgetting of detail: sad/ depressed/ angry (what we basically see as negative emotions) are not the only emotions out there.
A person slitting their wrists is not dictated by the clothes they wear. The emotions they feel are not going to disappear if they don a yellow t-shirt and listen to whatever cheery artists have been churned out this week.
The attack on 'emo' music- though (I must admit) some is depressing, though so are other genres of music) is meerly musicians and their audience expressing emotions and unfortunately not all of those are happy or "positive"... but they are emotions nonetheless...
As a 15 year old (not an emo) female, I see it as an insult to all teenagers as they proclaim how fickle and obselete we are... how we will change as soon as the magazines do... and how we have no rhyme or reason for our own expression (no matter what form it is). In the daily mail's usual patronising passive "voice of reason" we are told what we are, what we shouldn't be, and why...
let me, and everyone else, be ourselves... and don't complain when you don't agree...
the goths, the punks, the chavs... etc... are the mods, rockers, rude-boys etc and the older generation look back on this with a fond nostalgia... as my generation will in years to come!
Complain about this postits all nonsense. music is music. what you like is your own personal choice.
people have been singing about broken relationships and not feeling like they "belong" for decades.
MCR, Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard etc etc are just rock bands that have been lumped into this "genre" Like Nu-Metal before it - the bands who are great will survive (deftones) and the bands that arent will disappear (limp bizkit).
MCR and Taking back sunday are both on their 3rd albums. Which to me, denotes that they have staying power and continue to grow and grow - not only in the excellence of their music, but their fan base grows with them
I'd rather the youth of today be listening to challenging - intelligent music rather than the pop crap that is being churned out by the Xfactor/ Pop idol wannabees.
Complain about this postswell to ne honest this whole labeling people really annoys me. its what starts bullying and things. people say they want all this lavleing and what not to stop, yet you see these people saying ' gothic or emo' people can choose what they wear and how they wear it, its up to an individual to choose the type of musaic they like, it shows individuality. i totally disagree with people stereotyping, even when, to be honest, i doubt theyve met 'emo' people. they all dont want to slit their wrists and kill themselves, its what they want to look like. just leave them alone!
Complain about this postEMO is for depressed teans who need something to cry to
Complain about this postEMO'S or EMU's (I have noticed someone else used the emu word so big up yourself!) are just another fad and a way for people to get attention, so just shut and grow up ya losers!
Put on Led Zeppelin and get some real music into your ears, be happy and do something with your life, you may have to cut your crap hair so the music doesnt get blocked by all the hair and girly products your using in it.
P.s. Vote Bush!
Complain about this postemo was a movement that was started many years ago and has very little to do with the stereotypical image of emo today.bands and people get labelled emo because of their looks and the bands get labelled because they have emotive lyrics and a very specific sound.in my view if it makes people happy and brings people together its only a positive thing,people just want to condem it because as with every movement there are people who disagree.im 20 now and love it
Complain about this postmost emos dont harm themselves a;ot of people dress like emos but dont slit their wrists i meen i dress like one listen to the music and i dont cut my self. people from other stero types cut themselfs its just people who are a bit deppresed and need help
Complain about this postMen look ridiculous in skinny jeans. Emo girls and boys look the same! Not my cup of tea at all. Emo men look ill and need some meat on there bones. Not a good look.
Complain about this postNUFFIN RONG WID EMO'S BUT DERIS SUMTHIN RONG WID CHAVS STEREOTYPIN EMO'S JUS CUZ DEY GOT NUFFIN ESLE 2 DO EXCEPT GET DRUNK EVERYNYT
Complain about this postHiya... just wanted to say.. I didn't think "emo" bands got in the "poppish" chart nowadays and MCR aren't that emo anyways!!! I xxxxxsammiexxxxx
Complain about this postIm only 14 but in th last year ive noticed 'emo' is becoming some stereotypical name for anyone who likes bands like fallout boy, panic at th disco, my chemical romance etc. && who dresses, well as i see is individual =S A few of my friends see people walk by n make comments about them bein so called 'emo'.I dont see why we have categories for people, just because they dont dress like everyone else..I dont think its fair to put a stereotype on people by th clothes they wear or the music they like.
Complain about this postIn the daily mail article they mention Green Day thus showing them up for the half witted hacks they are
clearly they know nothing about very much at all.
The emo debate has been raging in the rock world for sometime now, in fact its been going on so long the generally accepted defination of emo has changed about three times...does anybody remember jimmy eat world they were supposed to be emo
And Dashboard Confessional was once the poster bosy of emo and he looks and sounds nothing like MCR
the problem is an age old one - anytime music is sub - categorized people will argue over who fits into what box! Personaly I would argue music comes in 2 categories good and bad and only you can determine for yourself if any particualr band falls in eiether category
As for MCR causing kids to self harm, this makes no more sense than blaming Metallica for the WM3 or Marliyn Manson being to blame for Columbine
Complain about this post"Although the look is similar, the point of distinction, frightening for schools and parents, is a celebration of self harm"
this is worrying even that I am a teenager that children and teenagers shouldn't be at risk to self harm because of a "trend"
Complain about this postxxxsammiexxx
i think this is a problem that has been blamed on 'emo' just the same that the drugs culture was blamed on the rocker's a few years back i know a high amount of young girls harming themselves none of them being emo, and none of them looking to show off thier scars they are more likley to hide them and be embarissed i think classing bands like green day as emo is completly and utterly disturbing they have been around for years and right good songs... now you get a band like trivium or Funeral For a Freind those arew emo bands but if thats what people want to listen to thats up to them but this is just another phase just like the rockers and the skaters we have all changed our appearance once and to judge people on that would take us back a few hundred years. emo is just another spin off of a small percentage of the rock community just like punks.
i used to be a skater and the more things came up in the news or debates like this one, it drives you more into thinking people are judging us and thinking we are scum of the earth so the more the Daily Express do this the more they are going to annoy these people just leave them be every one is and individual and no one is normal because you can't define normal so leave these kids alone
Complain about this posti hate emos. i really do, they smell, they have girsl hair and are really random people i wish they were all dead lol !!! oh and they also play crap music lol
Complain about this postoh please....
get over it.....emo's just a phase.....like leg warmers and shell suits (although im not sure if they ever went out!!!)
its just a fashion and a fad....some people are into it and others aren't.
i wouldnt call myself emo. but on the odd day i do fancy a pair of skinny black jeans and my thick rim glasses and a bit of fringe over my face ! thats just what i fancy !
does it eve matter what genre MCR are in...or anybody for that matter !!!
Musicians and bands alike should be able to create records simply because they sound good, not because of the genre they fit into !
i love a bit of MCR myself :-D
Complain about this postIt's an article by the daily mail - nothing they write is worth reading.
Complain about this postthat woman knows NOTHING about emo, she obviously overheard some teenagers talking, paraphrased wildly, then decided to call a lot of people goths, slag off the music and accuse people of self harming.
(not that i'd expect too much else from a newspaper that bases all its news stories on fear of change/the country/people who might threaten the stability of the country!)
i get called emo because i like dashboard confessional, panic! at the disco, MCR, paramore, bright eyes etc etc (not that i don't like a lot of other music, inc pop, rnb, indie, rock) and wear converse with my black leggings, denim skirt a tight t. does it matter? no. do i do it for attention? no, nor do i get any!
that journalist needs to get her facts right, and not generalise. and to those who keep going on about it being a fad, people change, styles come and go. get over it.
Complain about this postjust because people happen to like a certain clothing style or a certain type of music what was classed as 'emo' music does not make then 'emo' automatically, I like loads of different bands, some of them happen to be in the scremo/emo genre, but I do not class myself as emo. I think it is another stupid stereotype that people have come up with in order to generalise teenagers yet again, just like the 'chav' , 'goth' , 'trendy' , 'townie' , 'gangsta' , 'geek' , 'swot' etc etc.. its not a new thing so I dont know why the media are drawing attention to it and 'warning' the public about this new 'cult' for one thing I think if parents were genuinely bothered if their kids were unhappy then the kids wouldnt BE unhappy in the first place and would have no reason to self harm. It is nothing to do with a cult status in how people dress or what music they listen to!
Complain about this postI think this whole thing is so stupid and shouldnt have been published in the first place.
Yesterday I was wearing a black/white striped t-shirt and a pair of mere jeans. Entering my school's front door I've heard: " Ania! You are an EMO too!.I stood speechless with my mouth opened. Is it normal for you people that you have to watch out what you are putting on because you may look like EMO?! You also can't listen to MCR because you'll be regarded as an EMO KID. I personally listen to MetallicA for over three years now and I'm not going to change it anyway(whatever is fashionable).
HEY YOU! "EMO LIKE"KIDS!
If someone is wearing a pink/black striped shirt it doesn't have to mean that he is EMO or kinda like. Stop moaning at those poor people! Please!
Leave us alone!
Ania
Complain about this posti hate the way peopel stereotype type someone by the way they dress and by how the look, its ridiculous.
Complain about this postjust because someone wears skinny jeans and has black hair and has a fringe, they sterotype them as a emo. how can you label someone and you dont even know them. its society today that makes peoples put people onto genres or into some type of "group".
why should you can how someone dresses and what type of music they're into, i mean everyones different and not everyone has to be exactly the same, it make the world we live in a very boring place.
i support proplr who are emos but emo isnt about being a clone its about being who you are and what you wnat to be emos arnt all succidal and musnt b put down and the 'sterotype' is so wrong!!
Complain about this postWhat's the big problem with emos? They're better than chavs so stop complaining.
Complain about this postI am 15 and i am totally on the emo side, i mean i am an emo! i can't see why people are so stupid about it. SO WHAT WERE EMOS?! Emo music totally rocks. i think when people see something diffrent the push it away instead of trying to understand it, and i really do think its just making us closer together.
Complain about this postMy chemical romance are NOT EMO. They're just plain rubbish.
Bands such as bullet for my valentine are EMO. Which are also rubbish.
I run a website called MORBID BEAUTIES and we have all sorts of members, over 16,000 to be specific. We have EMO's, metal heads, goths, punks, cyber-goths and so on.
Getting back to EMO music, the only reason it's called EMO is because of the style of the band, and by this I mean their looks.
I mean come on, my chemical romance could be compared to HIM, and they are not EMO. Also as said before, below, MCR are not metal, and it sucks that they can get away with it....I mean what happened to likes of children of bodom, they are metal, not MCR.
Its all about the scene to be honest, for example....If you saw a guy or girl walking down the highstreet wearing drain pipe jeans, a tight top, a real thin scarf (not to keep them warm) and hair that reminds you of a skunk, you can almost gurantee that they like bands such as bullet for my valentine and MCR etc.
These may be strong assumptions but most of the time its a correct one.
As for EMO kids in general, they are harmnless, just the same as the rest of the alternative culture. We are peaceful, and just wanna have a good time. People who say they hate EMO's mostly refer to the style and genre, and the look. Its kinda of the same with Chavs, every alternative person hates chavs and few alternative people hate EMO's.
Its neither here nor there, most of it is down to group leadership, and by this I mean an influential friend of a group of friends influencing others around them to have their opinions. Silly really.
Complain about this postMCR are emo so i have no idea what any of these people are talking about!
Complain about this postJust read that Mail article... I can't believe it was actually published. It was not journalism... just a list of opinions!
Although I believe that the original meaning of 'emo' is has been completely lost, and I am not particularly a fan of what is called 'emo', I think the generalisations and stereotyping used by some people, including the author of that article, is grossly unfair and untrue. Not all emos self harm. But then you could say the same with a lot of things - not all young guys in hoodies are about to mug you either!
Complain about this postI am always mistaken for an emo cuz I love the music and Im always called a freak so I say STOP STEROTYPING just because they are different and like a different genre of music. Music was made to bring people together not to push people apart!!
Complain about this postEmo is the epitomy of what is wrong with music in the United States. It is formulaic and exploits the delusional deppressions of teens whose selfishly think they are the only ones to have such feelings at their age. In the U.S., corporate radio mostly plays emo, which is unfortunate because, as your side of the ocean has noticed, our country is producing some great music these days. Unfortunately we have to listen to underground stations, or radio stations abroad, to be exposed to it. Thank God for the Internet!!! Emo is a formula that companies exploit to make money. Plain and simple.
Complain about this postpeople call me emo for loving music by my chemical romance funeral for a friend, panic! at the disco, the zico chain, hawthorn heights and thursday, having black hair and wearing dark clothes. Emo's don't have it hard its just emo's don't go around and try and be superficial in material objects. we all know that everyone has it hard and we are not out to say we have it the worst. all we are doing is being ourselves and we are just open about the sad things in life such as death, breakups, and other bad times. what the "emo" music does is offers comfort to everyone to let you know that you are not going through bad times alone and that others have been there and come out the other side. yes there is a massive growth in emo's but emo's have been around for years, its just the fact that no-one has bothered opening their eyes to see them but as soon as MCR hit number 1 its suddenly becomes a talking point?! I agree with Christopher Rhodes and think that emo's are better to see than chavs, emos won't bash an old ladys head in just for the 5quid in her purse. so hows about leaving emo kids be? what have they done to deserve such bad publicity as the article in the mail?
Complain about this postI Have just replied to that ridiculous article in the Mail.
I am 25 and a professional designer. I lead a healthy active lifestyle and my friends do too.
I have been listening to 'emo' for about 10 years, since before it had a name, and other genres like post/hardcore/punk etc and some darker stuff too.
Most of my friends have similar taste and some choose to wear black, eyeliner etc. NONE of us have ever self harmed and this article is a pathetic attempt to generalise a music culture into a group of mentally unstable people. Quite pathetic indeed.
How you dress and your music tastes are two of the most readily availible ways of expressing your feelings, if these feelings are accompanied by the desire to self harm, this problem is in the mind and is most probably CAUSED by the parents. Its an outrageous thing to say:
"Although the look is similar, the point of distinction, frightening for schools and parents, is a celebration of self harm."
It makes angry almost but i can't be bothered to be as its such a childish and weak arguement/article.
The author needs to grow up and concentrate on helping those with problems, not blaming the music people listen to.
Regards Jay (Devon)
Complain about this postBasically, any emo kids that I know, constantly whine, bitch, and moan about life, so this emo scene thats peaking at the moment is like "Music to kill yourself to". Life is depressing enough, without having to listen to some random squeal about how crap their life is, while getting paid a fortune for the privilage...
Complain about this postEnough said....
whoevr writes stuff bout emos don't know what they are on about!!!!!!!!!!
Complain about this postthe roc kand their music(being and emo myself)
g oall us emos!!!!
............................................................................. and rock on Kerrang
emos are all boring and constantly sad they all look the same with the same style hair and the girls look like boys and boys look like girls.
Complain about this postthey all have a negative attitude to life and is depressing to be around.
ewwwww emos... yuck!lol! normo's al d way!!!!!
Complain about this postoh dear, another example of bad journalism
Complain about this postthe daily mail, (britain's favourite fascist newspaper) has YET AGAIN picked on the minority.
let me ask how may emos harm other people?
how many jouralists can write better music?
the comments were immature and the nessarcery goverment forces SHOULD be informed
absolute digrace--------------------------------------sam+simon
look MCR have even said they're not emo. it's just idiots who dont know what they're talking about labelling bands to look cool. i like MCR's new song but i don't like any of their other stuff and it's the same with a lot of other bands. good music is good music and if you limit yourself to one genre youre missing out.
Complain about this postEmo bands are all rubbish, there depressing and have turned alot of normal people into sad people.
Complain about this postEmo is just a phase that a certain age group go through i.e. teens. 90% of people that are into music reach the end of the their teens and have by that point been exposed so much more life experience and a million more one or two album bands that they move on. There's no way that these emo kids can be dressing and acting the way they do by the time they hit 20, there's too many other influences around that you can easily avoid living with your parents and socialising in certain groups.
Scene kids/emo kids are one in the same. Whatever's fashionable in a certain peer group is what they're going to listen to. I did, my friends did it, everyone does it. So for me there's no debate, it's a phase that will grow as old as the length of the teenage attention span.
Personally, at the ripe old age of 26 I can say that I like some of the music that's genred as Emo. It's not the music that I dislike, it's the attitude of the teenage listeners that go with it.
Complain about this postIt really annoys me that people who appear to be "emo" are getting such a rough ride at the minute. A couple of years ago I went through a very low patch for what most of my peers saw as no reason and so they bullied and isolated me for it.
I used to wear dark clothes and seemed to hide away purely to stop being noticed.
If this had happend now I would probably be labelled an "emo", all this would have done would be to isolate me more and then perhaps, yes I might have ended up self harming.
Bullying people because they are different in any way is totally wrong. Getting at 'emos' is no different to getting at a Muslim kid because they have different traditions. Perhaps if these people really are so emotional we should be trying to help them rather than bullying them.
Complain about this postWho cares. Walking around seeing the sad sheep of goths...emo kids...skids...thinking and acting as though the weight of the world is beating on them...it's just recycled genres and subcultures of past decades.
It's nothing new nor individualistic. It's a sign of procrastination in musical ideas and lack of talent in our society. So why bother even discussing it or listening to it?
Complain about this postI'm all for people being different. Isn't that the whole point? Just because people are wearing skinny fit jeans, tight tops and neck scarfs doesn't mean that they automatically self harm and read poetry. I don't think that we can automatically stereotype people into the emo group just because of the clothes they wear and the music they listen to.
My chemical Romance (MCR) Are not emo although the lyrics to songs on the new album are deeper; they actually mean something to the people that read them. Emo-Pop-rock type music is HUGE in America, so why should people have such a prejudice of it here in Britain? These songs are great. Songs such as 'I'm Not Okay' from MCR's previous album is full of guitar, and is an awesome song just to listen to and turn right up.
How many of you out there watch the X Factor? Eten Road's Lead singer, Anthony, Is different and people love him! He stands out from the rest and although he wears skinny fit jeans, celtic crosses, tight tops and has black hair does this make him Emo?
I think Emo is being looked into far too much. Modern day goths/chavs/townies don't seem to recieve this much attention. Not all Emo's harm, they dress differnently and if they want to experiment with poetry and meaningful lyrics who are we to stop them?
Complain about this posti dont like emos, i was once friends with one, but when she became an emo she dissed who i am and who i like, so i dont like her anymore. she thinks that she is super important because she is an emo, and boasts to all of her friends she cuts her wrists? but why? i belive you only have one life on this earth, so why cut yourself, or commit suicide, or go around saying you are depressed, if that's the case? why do they want to die in the first place? i think im taking this too seriously, and if i am, can an emo PLEASE explain WHY they are like this?
Complain about this postQuoting ''matt''
all emos are pathetic and look like weird little idiots wearing all cheap black clothes!!! chavs rule!
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EMO's don't usually wear '''cheap black clothes'''.
This is another AMAZING example of how dumb a chav is....Not only was it off-topic, but a completely un substantiated claim.
laff.
Complain about this postThere's nothing wrong with EMO music. I'm not it's biggest fan but i quite enjoy that MCR tune. I think the real problem is EMO kids thinking that they have to go that extra step to fit in with the scene. They wear black clothes in the middle of summer and think it is a crime to crack a smile. What really worries me is the association with self harming,which cant be ignored. Why cant they just enjoy the music?
Complain about this postI'm not a of emo music and can appreciate this huge debate.
I think everyone should be entitled to there own taste in music and kids should not be given a hard time...even if there tast in music is mince.
Complain about this postWell, being a teenager, this is the way I see it: there are (and I know this is a huge generalisation) two main types of kids in terms of style; emos and preps.
Both have their good and bad points, but to be honest Im sure people would criticise my generation even more than they do now if we were all preppily dressed, shallow and materialistic.
Emos rebel against this, and I think people should stop criticising them for having some emotional integrity, even if some do take it to extremes. Not all emos are depressed weirdos, the majority that I know are the people who go out most weekends and have a good time at gigs and parties.
In terms of the media, I think my generation is extremely unfiarly treated:
we listen to "emo" music, we are criticised
we are told we dont have any manners, we are criticised
we pass exams that are apparently too "easy", and we are criticised.
I would appreciate it if older generations would take a long hard look at themselves before they criticise teenagers in future:
they were not perfect when they were our age, and they hardly are now.
Just look at the hash made of Iraq and the state of young children being brought up by parents too busy to kiss their children goodnight.
Complain about this postHow many Emos does it take to change a light bulb?
None- they all just sit in the dark and cry.
Fran Danczak, 13
Complain about this postAnyone that took the time to listen to MCR or Panic!... and knew anything about the history of american indie would know that these bands are NOT 'emo'.
'emo' = 'emotional hardcore'
i'm not even going to begin to write a summary of hardcore, there's a film out soon. i suggest ill informed Daily Mail journos check it out.
MCR are a very good guitar pop band. their fans love them. what else matters, exactly?
Complain about this postI've always liked MCR, from day one i listened to every word they sang...never once have i considered committing suicide or self harming in any way. It's not the music you listen to that makes you self harm, it's how you feel.
Complain about this postAnd the emo craze at the moment, it'll be over in a couple of months, and it'll be something else that the daily mail is criticizing, and those who are truly emo will be left to carry on as they always have and will be forgotten about.
I don't think there are so many people that are that stupid to self harm just because it's the 'in thing', it's only because it's been in the media recently that it has been bought to light just how many people who have serious problems are self harming.
Its not that i hate the style of music its just there whinning american accents that i cant stand and its even worse when u get an engish or welsh band trying to sing like an american..there is no need what so ever we are english...PEACE
Complain about this postMy friends call me an emo 'cause i like bands like MCR, Bullet for my velntine, trivium and Aiden. i don't mind, i take it as a complement. So i dress in balck, i like certain muisc, i have an individual attidude.. I don't get hassle for it, i get respect.
Complain about this postThogh i am a massive fan of MCR I was kinda shocked that Welcome To The Black Parade got to number 1
I love EMO music and i would class myself as one but i am also a born again christian and i do not go around slitting my wrists and feeling sorry for myself my best friend is exactly the same as me in this respect and shes the happiest most smiley person i know i dont think ive ever seen her without a smile on her face.
We are not what people think they see one or two people who are "emo" looking depressed and they suddenly stereotype.
And the rumour that MCR encourage self-harm and suicide is ridiclous. in fact at their shows Gerard Way actually says if you are depressed and suicidal yo must talk to someone you can trust who can help you because he knows what its like and its the worst feeling in the world.
So to those people who bash emos try getting to know the person behind the fringe before you judge them because they may be jst like you. one of my best mates is semi-chav so it can be done
We judge eachother of character and personality not fasion and musical taste
Complain about this postEMO or not, `my chemical romances` black parade album is one of high quality and superb musical talent, a number one in the album charts will surely follow there single charts success
Complain about this postThe problem is these guys are obviously rly good at the instruments that they play its jst what they sing about. It can't be satisfying writing a song that shows that u are rly upset. It also isn't nice to hear yourself that these people are upset. I personally like indie rock so im a a little biased but i rly do hate emo with a passion. The new mcr album is a blend of noise and random shouting which words are inconceivable from. I rly hate it.
Wx
Complain about this postI am a sort of emo thing... I went to get my hair cut like an emo because i like the way there hair was and my hairdresser said like a what an elmo and i said no thats a character off of sesame street. But ever since then most people call me Emo, Elmo Or Punk Elmo... I must say I'm more of a punk than anything else but elmo is like a blonde haired punk who can wear what he/she wants and basically do what she wants... But as I'm only 12 then i kinda can't do what i want. But so far I'm the only elmo in the universe except my good old friend Elmo... off of sesame street. I love him lol. Anyway bye bye xxx PLEASE READ!
Complain about this postMCR R NOT EMO ! ! !
Complain about this postemos are just attention seakers as soon as their music becomes mainstream they will all just fade out and then find some other type of music that not many people like so the can get more attention.
Complain about this postI hate Emo's and Emo music as why should you slit your wrists when your angry. It would make me even more angry. Their just stupid.
Complain about this postWho cares?
Complain about this postAnother case of image before music. I'm not going to generalize here. Living in Canada, I have a hard time understanding why many people feel the need to conform to the image of a particular genre. I understand that teenage conformity may be somewhat genetic, but I think many people loose sight of what the music really is, regardless of genre. When I hear music that makes my foot tap or gets me emotional, I try not to get wraped up in whether or not I can enjoy it when I haven't conformed to the sterotypical image of that particular genre. For example, If people like Nine Inch Nails or the Cure, do they need to be goth? If they like Jay-Z or Eminem do they need to be more ghetto style? If I like Miles Davis or Charlie Parker do they need to be a heroine addicted jazz musician? If they like trance do I have to be an etarded candy kid? If they like Mozart do they have to be a rich old snob? and if they like MCR or Panic at the Disco, do they need to be emo?
Complain about this postModern Western pop music only has 12 notes 12 keys and a whole lotta rhythm. Who cares how it looks or how you look. Enjoy it cause it appeals to you aurally.
What are they depressed about really!? Is it there hard, middle-class lives, or are they annoyed with their new iPod nano which daddy just bought them! Wear what you want and be who you want to be but they should out things into perspective. Although some probably have serious problems most are just jumping on the bandwagon and unecessarily moaning about their difficult lives to fit in with the other "depressed" EMOs!! My friend spent the summer in Africa doing charity work and explained to me how truly hard life is for them, they've got real problems.
Complain about this postim an emo n im just fine im just a normal crazy fun loving teen just coz i like different music and clothes dnt mee im wierder den da rest of u it just meens im mor indavidual n have mi own sense of style xxxxxxxx
Complain about this postI went through a very slight emo phase a couple of years ago and now the very idea of listening to "emotional rock", wearing converse and running round giggling, screaming and handing out hugs to all that I see makes me squirm inside. I would say the stereotype is ridiculous, as most "emos" don't want to kill themselves, depression often seems to be a thing adults (often parents) use as an excuse for their child not liking them. Depression is a serious matter and it really doesn't help to presume the person is a goth/emo and listens to heavy metal. A spide (chav) can be depressed.
Despite my views on the emo stereotype, emos very often annoy me to no end. People who are friends with emos often feel pressurised to listen to a certain type of music, wear black and feel like outcasts. (Seems a good time to point out that if you are being an emo/goth to be different, don't you realise it's a massive craze?) Basically big groups of them in my hometown and near-by city take over whole areas, intimidate the OAPs (oh no!) and make the place look bad to any foreigners to our troubled country on a holiday.
I suppose I haven't properly explained why this group of people annoy me so, but I have my reasons; it's just hard to pour your general hate and anger into a box of writing on a screen. (Just to add, some emos can be okay, to more-or-less contradict some of what I've said)
Complain about this posti dont get it most bands write stuff that means stuff to them so surely thats emotional so how come their not all called emo it is so confusing.
Complain about this posthey, my friends call me emo....i dress like emo's...i have hair like emo's...and i love emo music e.g. my chemical romance, but it doesn't mean i harm myself. i totally diasagree with what the daily mirror are saying. i thinks its ok for people to show how they feel inside, afterall it's surposed to be a free country.
i hope this helps,
luv ya xx xx
Complain about this postARGGGGGGGHHHH!! There is no such thing as an "emo" or "emotional rock". It is simply a figment of imagination of every pathetic person who likes to label people in a certain way. Grow up. Your lame and pathetic and your probably troubled too. Its just like every other label in this world depicting people for the way they dress or how they apply make-up. GET OVER IT. Your not emo, your friends aint emo and your favorite band isnt either. So just crawl back into your little hole and stop pissing people off by targetting them.
Complain about this posti think putting anybody into a stereotype is wrong .. why do we have all these different groups of people .. how can anybody be defined to one specific type.
i listen to all kinds of music and dont describe my self as anything ... im just me!!
but ... if someone wants to call themselves an EMO and put themselves into that category then thats their decision ... who can tell them what to be?
Complain about this postI love Emo things and i couldnt belive it when i read the artical in Kerrang! I love my chemical romance and i was so glad that they slaged off the daily mail. That woman was out of order about tell parents to watch out for the kids when they were a sort of style and listen to different music. I think you should be able do wear listen and do whatever you want without being put down and accused or taken the complete mick out of.
Im so glad MCR are number 1 yay
love Emily
Complain about this posti think emos are gettin an a hard time for no real reason, its just a trend and i think most emos are stereotyped in the self harming image but i like the music and get called all sorts of things, but the music doesn't make me different to every1 else. so im portarayed to be somthing im not. :(
p.s. keep playin M.C.R.
Complain about this postEmo is the worst thing to happen to music in a long time. They all know who they are, they all think that they're the only one who really "gets" emo, and that everyone ELSE is just a scene kid. They ALL have the warped idea of an "original" haircut by sweeping it over to one side. And yes, if you spike it up at the back you're still just the same as everyone else, you just look more like a girl.
Emo kids tend to be narcissistic little kids that think its cool to be "deep". To sum up, emo is just metal with a pinch of 80's pop culture (mainly the haircuts). Get over it, and get rid of it already.
Complain about this postThe views the daily mail demonstrated were grossly misinformed, and showed the nation the fear that teenagers can cause adults. The scaremongering this woman aimed for showed parents what she wanted them to know, and therefore caused even more stereotyping than was evident before. I personally think that her views were personal, and should not be published in a way to influence parents with lies like 'death pop!?!' And I don't think anyone would ever agree MCR were an emo band. It's like calling Westlife metal.
Complain about this postEmo is going to be popular with teenagers as it goes well with their muddled hormones and dramatic romantic lives....Every year, kids think that there is no way that anyone has ever had a life as intense and dramatic as theirs, life is so unfair, why go on, no-one understands, lalala.
Most 'emo' is pretty boys in goth get up and make up singing what, essentially, are pop songs. It's the look that the kids like (and why not, it rocks).
Yes. I am old. I was a goth over ten years ago. But, bizarrely, I too wore black nailvarnish, black lipstick, stripey jumpers, dyed my hair purple etc etc. I think it's pretty funny that the 'alternative' kids are so 'alternative' that they're wearing exactly the same get-up that all the other 'alternative kids' wear...
It's something that you either grow out of, or at least broaden your horizons, but it's nice to have a defined identity when you're growing up and figuring out who you are. Sometimes you can relate to the lyrics of a song, and that's cool, but don't get too precious about it.
Complain about this postemo was originally a genre of music, now it has turned into this big fashion style. i have nothing against 'emo's' i dont think they should get the abuse they are having to put up with. the only people i have a problem with is the people me and my friends call wemo's, wannabe emo's. they dye their hair black and cut themselves in attempt to fit the stereotypical requirements.
Complain about this posti know plenty of real 'emo's' and they are all lovely people, my brother is an 'emo' and the nicest person in this world i think.
i think that giving lables to someones style is so stoopid! but what i hate more is people getting grief over their chosen style! its pathetic!
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i hate the whole scene emo thing. you get loads of them in bournemouth, infact to me they are just the new version of chav.
you go into H&M or somewhere like that, and the whols shop is emo. it's taking over. i don't have a problem with emos at all, it's just when they walk past you and come out with something along the lines of "oh my god, what a skank" i get that alot. just because i wear thick black eyeliner and my slayer hoody. they have to look down at you, like your something disgusting on the floor, so i cant help but turn round and hurl abuse back at them.
they call themselves 'individuals' but theyre not, theyre just following a trend. they are the modern version of chavs. they cant exept people who dress diferently to them. to them, u either have to dress like a 'scene' or you just cant be in the 'gang' it's sad.
i bet now, that as soon as emo goes out of fashion, all scene kids will dissaper, all because its not cool anymore. but the true emos out there will stick with their preferred dress sense, and only then will they stick back out like they used to, where they belong.
but im with the whole anti mcr thing, call mcr metal, and i slap you!
Complain about this postwell in my school we debate about wether emos are over populating but the poeple in my school are stereotyped just by the way they look have have best friends that are i would say emo's but there great friends and if they want to wear dark coloured clothes then that is intieley up to them. i think mostley that poeple are scared of a a new fation or a trend but people only dont like them because they are not like them
Complain about this post"Emo" is short for emotional. People dont seem to understand this. They do not cut their wrists and the article in the Daily Mail was incredibly inaccurate and i think the Daily Mail have used a serious issue such as self harm to produce a cheap shock story for parents to read. I find it incredibly irritating that recentlymost "emos" are just trying to be fashionable and are following an ever growing crowd and supporting bands such as MCR and Panic at the Disco. These bands are not emo bands and merely use "emo" as a way of gaining popularity. "Emo" bands are underground bands who most people would not have ever heard of. This recent influx of fake emo bands has irritated me and i would support a new label and use it constantly against fakes who follow the crowd. I have no prejudices against emos. I hate fakes and the people who label them.
Complain about this postfair play all emos think normal looking poeple are chavs or either to fat to thin to ugly and they always moan and i listen to real hard rock which is so crap thats why is isnt on radio 1 which i a good radio station to listen to so ill slit my wrists type of stuff ....whats they point i no that they dont like to be like everyone else but normal is good instead of being different looking like a goth/emo/ugly/make up wearing turd they should be put in mental homes
Complain about this posthey, i love emos and why? because they r hawt and my bf is emo and he is sexy the music is so leathal take my chemical romance as an example, there new song welcome to the black parade who in the world hates it, and emo's r jus people who like to put there emotions on display, thats my oppinion lol xx
Complain about this postemo is gr8, people are only afraid of what they dont understand
Complain about this postWhy is everyone being so stereotypical anyway!?! Why should people be judged on how they look or what music they listen to? If someone listens to a certain band it doesnt mean they have to be stereotyped! If you ask me, its good to be different, i couldnt care less if someone is a emo or whatever other stereotype!
Complain about this postno one knows the meaning of the word. people just say it to put peole in a group because of the music people listen to.
its sad to think that so mayn people use the word because of the music we listen to and what we wear.
its all sterotyping people and i think thats it wrong!
there are more importent things out there than putting people into groups!
Complain about this postI'm into pretty much any kind of music, be it metal, hip-hop electro or good old fashioned pop, but I'd rather be an "Emo" than a "chav" or one of the rising trend of "pretentious indie kids".
MCR is being hailed as the new Greenday, being the next biggest band in the world, on the basis of one song. This 'rock opera' (cough, cough Greenday...), described by the press, is quite similar to "Helena' or "I'm not okay" in my opinion - yet people who like the new song, often seem to hate MCR's previous work. (By the way, I enjoy all of MCR's stuff from 'I Brought...' and onwards - emo music is very good to cycle along to in the gym!)
It seems that the assosication of Greenday's 'American Idiot' video director and producer with MCR has changed them from emo into pop-emo, accepted only because of promotion and name dropping.
Good luck to emos, they're usually nice people, and at least they're not the car-stealing, granny-mugging, tracksuit-wearing idiots that chavs often are !
Complain about this postemos make me laugh. they think they listen to hardcore rock. My Chemical Romance is the complete antithesis of hardcore rock. It's just a fad. People where i live think, "ooh, because it's cool to be emo, i'll start listening to hardcore metal, like panic at the disco." i watch wannabe emos at my school; they start to smile, then realise it, then frown.
Complain about this posti love MCR they r brill even tho every1 says there emo i dont care thay are wiked!!!!
Complain about this postI don't think kids who like Emo music are disliked and recieve bad press it's the 'Scenes' that give us bad press! People who just jump on the band-wagon of whats fashionable at the moment... Such as 'Indies' they are the worst for it. Those are the people who give Emo's a bad name. Their odd fashion sense and need to cry and write poetry every five seconds brings us down and has resorted in the joke:
Complain about this postQ: 'How many Emos does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 'None they all sit in the dark and cry.'
We are not all that bad we just appreciate the emotional side of the music; the fact that is has depth and meaning, hence Emo... Emotional.....
These 'Scenes' are the soo called bad press. They corrupt bands to become mainstream
e.g. Greenday,
Lostprophets,
MCR,
FFAF,
Finch,
18Visions.
I bet half the people who have bought their newest albums don't even know any songs from their first album.
This annoys me and so does people buying such t-shirts as Ramones/ Led Zepplin/ Rolling Stones/ New York Dolls t-shirts because their fashionable, not because they love that band and want to show their appreciation. I bet if you asked half the people wearing those t-shirts to name just five songs by that artist and atleast 2 albums they couldn't even do that....
I enjoy and appreciate Emo music.. I liked bands such as Finch and FFAF before this stereotype began...... The media has the idea of Emo music all wrong saying bands like Fightstar and Fall Out Boy are Emo.... Get your facts right is what I have to say! What type of Emo in their right mind would support an ex busted!? I put it to you.
Many thanks.
XEmmaX
Emo is stupid. just a fad! I hate it. Metal all the way. music isn't about what clothes and style you wear that just stupid! why wear what everyone else does? cut your hair the same way? very very boring
Complain about this postwhen emo started out, like anything, it was a cult for a certain group of people who used the way they acted and dressed as a way to express themselves and the way they feel.
i am 14 years old and Classified as "emo" but the thing is no1 really does quite understand the meaning of the whole thing, "kids" walk around in england now and people say oh yeah look there goes an emo and the kids love it well for a matter of fact these are the majority of people who will jump on the bandwagon when anything that is deemed as fashionable comes along.
these people are not artistic or expressive and have probably never heard real "emo" music.
there are all sorts of stereotypes about emo and pretty much every other "craze" but to be honest their all just people and you shouldn't judge a book by its cover,
no matter how long their fringe is.
p.s.
mcr = green day
Complain about this posti see no difference, do you?
EMO's just made me laugh so i can't diss them - although they are a bit wierd.
Complain about this postI remeber when Emo first started to emerge as a genre 4 or 5 years ago and it was considered slower pop ounk with lyrics based on heartache and broken romances and I have considered myself 'emo' for some time, favouring bands like My Chemical Romance, green day, bright eyes and New Found Glory. Not once have I ever considered my life miserable or self harmed. I am very happy and fulfilled and feel that the sub culture of emo is getting a bad rap at the moment in much the same way as the goth culture associated with Marilyn Manson and the hip hop culture associated with Biggie and Tupac once did. the media is using them as scapegoats to blame all the ills of youth on, not considering major factors such as home environment. I feel it is beneficial to younger teenagers to feel part of a group, be it chavs, skaters, emo or what not in order to be part of a community. i would be more concerned if my child was not part of a unit and therefore would be very lonely, as high school can be a very lonely place at times, these are the children more likely to self harm, the ones who are not supported properly by friends and family units. and as for the skinny issue there are plenty of well round goths and i tip my hat to them!
Complain about this postwho cares if its emo who cares if its metal who cares if its pop!!!
If its a good song why give it a genre, if u like it then u like it n thats that!!!
i don't go uugggg thats a pop band i dont like that song even if i do like it a bit???
i couldn't give a funk if its metal, punk, emo, pop (even rap) if it appels 2 me n i like it i don't care what it is
Complain about this postThe daily mails article was complete trash.Everyone should be entitled to be who they want to be,dress how they want to dress,hang with anyone they like and listen to whatever music they think is goood.No one has the right to critise anyone else over any of these things.As everyone is unique and we have to accept it.Even if they dont dress how You dress,or listen to your music,or hang with different people to you dosent make them bad people.Just get over it,and let everyone be themselves.Unless you have spoken to every single emo what right do you have to judge?None.
Also read the daily telagraphs article on emos at
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/09/18/do1804.xml
This is much better than what the daily mail printed.
Complain about this postI agree with jon, there are hardly any real emos.
Complain about this postMost are just stupid little scene kids...almost how when you were a little kid you might want to be one of your heroes, kinda babyish really, i dont like scene kids, i dont like emos, sorry to be a whiner, i just felt it had to be said.
omg i think you shouldn't b so hard on kids my age who look the slightest emo. i mean what is a proper emo? i where skinny jeans nd i like mcr but i hav my natural hair colour nd i would never slit my rists so am i emo!!?
i bet this so-called 'top class newspaper' The Daily Mail probrly havn't even met a emo!!! they r just finding somthing else 2 complian about teenagers. first it was chavs now is emo's wat next?
Complain about this posti hav a question 4 all u people who only have a 1 sided view about teens. Didn't u have trend wen u were a teen?
Blah blah blah, these are the first kids to make music like this - rubbish.
Kids were wearing dark clothes and being moody in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. Mods, Punks, Goths, New Age, Grunge, Emo - It really is nothing new.
Teenagers feel angst and no-one understands them - life sucks so get a helmet - It's just a ride.
Fashions change and teens grow up to become the same people as their parents - cest la vie.
Complain about this posti think its the bands, the music and the whole scene, placing everything into little sub genres and making it so competetive every little group tries to outdo each other, all this self harm, wearing black, its just a show.
Complain about this postlook at house music! now theres nothing like this sort of bravado, cliques or anything! everyones in it for the love! ok you may think im coming down harsh but its the way i feel about it, i understand that the media do blow little things out of proportion though, they have done with house culture before. so maybe i AM wrong and its just to be ignored!
Just reading through the comments and I cant believe somebody called the Daily Mail a top class newspaper! hahahaha!
Complain about this postEMO is cool and im not even emo...yet....but i can change!! i what the hair!
Complain about this posthey if u wanna be like it so god-dam what. i love emo music like MCR, the get up kids and britney spears. its gr8 to carm down n listen to themafter a long day but bugger what i think this is just words be what u wanna be n do what u want.....
I don't know why people have a problem with emo's, me and my friend like emo music and are proud of it! There is nothing wrong with it. Emo is short for emotional, and I think people who don't like to show their emotions are the ones that have problems with emo's, or they just want to pick at people who they think are different from them (in this case emo's).
Complain about this postMy main problem with so called Emo music is that it is just formulaic poppy rubbish manufactured by record companies to appeal to the masses. My other problem is that you now hear it EVERYWHERE and that as far as most people are concerned, if you don't like it you aren't 'cool', dispite the fact that these people all dress exactly the same and all have the same hairstyle. Apparently it isn't 'cool' to be able to see out of both eyes anymore.
Thanks, but I will risk my coolness in favour of music with a bit more substance and the ability of depth perception please.
Complain about this postI think that the society tries to put everyone into a stereotype to help them understand things they do not. In reality, all this does is make things more confusing. I HATE stereotypes. No two people are the same so why should we try to categorise them? You cannot define a person with a stereotype. There are kids out there who harm themselves because they are genuinely hurting inside, not for attention and not because of fashion. I am sure that there are some do it because they think its "EMO" but surely by the daily mail stating that it is EMO to cut yourself they are encouraging those that are of impressionable mind to do this also in order to keep up with fashion?
I live in Leeds and there has been a gang hanging around the corn exchange in the city centre for years now I haven't asked them but i assume they would call themselves EMO, they all wear similar dark clothing, but I have no idea what music they are into. A while back, apparently one of them killed themselves outside the corn exchange whilst shoppers were going in and out! Its tragic, but because of the stereotype they have attached, nobody seemed surprised and from the circumstances it would appear it was done in the name of being EMO! Its appalling, but how do you stop society boxing people into all sorts of stereotypes? You cant! (rant over!)
Complain about this postTo be perfectly honest, I've stopped caring about what people think. I know the one label that fits me: human being.
Yeah, I used to like dressing in black and being overdramatic. But then I grew out of it. Trust me, four or five years from now we'll all be going, "emo? what's emo?"
Complain about this postSince when were Green Day emo?
Just leave the kids alone. They're not doing anything to anyone, are they? They're not running around, attacking people and mugging them, so I see no need as to why people have to be so incredibly immature about this! That Daily Mail article was so overblown. It's the same "let's cause mass paranoia!" attitude that's really causing harm.
Complain about this postI've not read all of these comments but basically you could wind the clock back 25 years and substitute the word goth for emo... ....everyone was saying the same about them - harmless stuff really and if emo kids enjoy the music and style - let them
Complain about this posti think personally rock culture has changed alot over the last decade there are so many different styles of rock "emo kids" seem to be singled out because people who have liked classic bands for a long time see these styles eg emo rock getting brought into rock culture and good classic bands are being forgotten. emo is a group of screaming teenagers singing about things they havnt experienced, alot of there fans are kids and the males look very feminine its just lame but at the end of the day its there choice evenually they will grow out of it its more of a trend and they are fashion victims.
peace out
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