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Frankley Forgotten - The Debate

From unemployment to transport issues, residents in Frankley say they're a 'forgotten community'. On Thursday 14th May 2009 BBC WM gave Frankley's community a platform to have their say – listen to the full debate online.

Frankley Forgotten debate panel

Frankley Forgotten debate panel

Over the coming months BBC WM will be travelling across the West Midlands giving local communities the opportunity to call to account their local politicians and the people that make the decisions about where they live.

Called to account

On Thursday 14th May 2009 BBC WM went to Frankley in Birmingham. Hosted by BBC WM's Joanne Malin the public forum event was held at Holly Hill Infant School. An audience of around 50 local residents were given the opportunity to voice their concerns about their area to a panel of decision makers.

Frankley Forgotten

Frankley Forgotten audience

Panel guests included: Northfield MP Richard Burden, Conservative Northfield ward Chairman Cllr Keith Barton, Birmingham City Council Cabinet member for Adults and Communities Cllr Sue Anderson and Frankley Community Worker Andy Ross.

Other guest decision makers present were: Cllr Roger Hollingworth (Bromsgrove Council Leader), Mike Murray (St Modwen Senior Developer), Jean Harborne (Job Centre Plus Senior Customer Service Manager ) and Cllr Sidney Grey (New Frankley Parish neighbourhood forum).

Local issues raised throughout the debate looked at the identity of the area, unemployment, regeneration, facilities for young people, transport links and more… Listen to the full debate below.

Frankley Forgotten debate - residents have their say

Frankley Forgotten debate

Debate Part 1 - Why is Frankley Forgotten?

Frankley Community Worker Andy Ross: “I live and work on the estate and people say they feel isolated and forgotten. There are a lot of people that work really hard in the area - the problem we have is communication.”

Maxine, Frankley resident and teacher: “There’s no heart or infrastructure in Frankley.”

Cllr Sue Anderson: “When you drive through Frankley it feels very much like you’re on the edge and people must feel like they are on the edge. Birmingham's a big city and I think most areas on the edge of Birmingham would probably feel the same."

Frankley Forgotten debate - residents have their say

Frankley Forgotten debate

Debate Part 2 – Unemployment and young people

Forrestdale School Head teacher: “We need a local job centre office here on the estate, there’s a lack of localised facilities.”

Mike Murray, Senior Developer, St Modwen: “Longbridge is a massive project and we are trying to create the opportunities. I can create the physical elements but help is needed to bring in people from the South West area of Birmingham, I can’t do it on my own.”

Sarah, local resident: "Young people on the estate are seeing people taking and dealing drugs. Numerous times I’ve walked across the field to go to the shops and there are needles on the ground. You walk around the streets and it’s blatant."

Frankley Forgotten - Mike Murray gives his views

Frankley Forgotten - Mike Murray gives his views

Debate Part 3 – Transport

Sarah Parker, local resident – “We used to have a local 49a bus that took you from Frankley to the local supermarket and back again. It was taken off with no thought for the elderly or people without transport and we would like to see it back.”

Richard Burden, Northfield MP – “Frankey railway has been an issue for many years – the problem is, there was never any money allocated to the railway, so the promise was made but it was never going to be delivered.”

Frankley Forgotten debate panel

Frankley Forgotten debate panel

Debate Part 4 – The Future

Richard Burden, Northfield MP: “I’m going to pledge to do what I can to change what people in Frankley are sick of which is consultation and change it to empowerment.”

Andy Ross: “I’m going to keep badgering people that keep promising things and don’t deliver - that’s a promise.”

Cllr Sidney Grey: “This has to be a two way thing,  people in the community need to start thinking, what can I do for Frankley and not what can Frankley do for me.”

Life in Frankley

Life in Frankley

More about Frankley Forgotten…

Special reports, features and interviews reviewing the Frankley Forgotten debate were  featured across BBC WM programmes throughout Friday 15th May 2009.

Listen to Cllr Keith Barton share his thoughts on the debate on Phil Upton's Breakfast show, also Frankley resident Paul Kileen and Cllr Sue Anderson joined the Ed Doolan afternoon show.

Watch: Life in Frankley

Watch residents talk about issues and concerns in Frankley in a special 'Frankley Forgotten' video report.

last updated: 19/05/2009 at 16:16
created: 15/05/2009

Have Your Say

Do you live in Frankley? Do you have an opinion on what was discussed in the debate? Have your say below...

The BBC reserves the right to edit comments submitted.

Yvette
My husband and I bought our house in Frankley because of the green open spaces and the living in the country feel it has got. We do not want more shops or a railway and we certainly do not wamt any more houses to be built. We have experienced 3 floods already, there is already too much concret and nowhere for the rain water to be absorbed. Please do not spoil our frankley for the sake of the few that want everything on their door step!!!

RITA STONE
What the bus driver said is true and thats what is happerning to the disabled and elderly on frankley. we been here since 1980 then it was under bromsgrove and we had policemen on bikes on our streets and there were no problems then. We could stop a policeman if need be. Since 1995 the violence has escalated. We need our own housing office run by people who live here. We have asked for help off our MP he says its not his job! Frankley is 'FORGOTTEN' and we need help. Elderly/disabled people should be able to live without voilence, without hate crime.

Sharon Wathen
I live in Frankley and I don't like living here. My kids and I will not go out at night because we are scared to. Where we live there is a lane to go to the shops by Forrestdale School and all the kids hang out there. We have been verbally abused and one time physically. It is just houses after houses. There was some high rise flats knocked down years ago and still there is just the space where they were left. I have lived on and off the estate for 15 years and I can see not much has changed. The withdrawal of the 49a bus was a disgrace. I know many people that relied on that but to get them to the supermarket.

Ken Moore cv/ founder mem of- Wyre close N/watch-A
Hi thereI attended the Frankley discustion.I thought it was handle okay.It was Moved along well.Some observations, there were some people there, I have not seen at any of the Frankley meetings that we regularly attend. Up to recently people have tried to get things going - The same old problems haunt us. A local boxer said he would you like to start a club - Ask would any one like to join it? Approximately 200 young lads turned up some walking in from Longbridge.The boxer asked for help, guess what...no money... So they had to scrape it by putting money in out of there own pocket. An opportunity to take the kids of the streets lost. The railway is a sore piont for all - with the Parish only representing part of the Frankley. A Parish councillor stated at your meeting "95% of the Frankley want the railway"- over the 11 years, 5 surveys have been carried out on the railway. The 2 recent ones stated 12,000 leaflets were delivered. 11,287 were not answered - 184 said would never use it- 121 said once a month- 424 against 289 for.It's in writting to be seen. A further telephone survey was carried out, 1,146 people contacted. It Stated 75% of Cofton did not want it- 73% Northfield did not want it- Only 49% of the Frankley wanted it. We fought to stop the railway going through "Balaams wood" It is now a nature reserve- we stopped them cutting down 1000 trees. It's a little and the kids love to play in it.

David Hardiman
I grew up in Frankley and feel lucky to have escaped to university in Leeds. I was only able to do so by travelling 50 minutes each way every day to a school outside of the area that gave me better education prospects. Opportunities for young people are extremely slim with no nearby college and a lack of any transport facilities to get to one. I feel sorry for the young people who do not have the opportunities that I had, and with no access to decent sporting, artistic or employment facilities, it's no wonder there are alcohol and drug problems.It's fine for the panel to ask people to get involved and submit ideas, but every time they do, they are given empty promises, and this leaves them disillusioned.

Martin - Strip Tinning Limited
I was born and raised just down the road in Northfield back in the 50's, so have seen some drastic changes to this area. It sometimes seems like a little Bermuda Triangle here - some of our mail states the address as Frankley/Rubery/Rednal! The mobile phone reception is also very poor, probably for the same reason!When we ring the courier for a collection, they don't have Frankley as an area on their computers. We moved here from Dudley Road about 4 years ago, and were offered benefits in the forms of low rent plus other incentives because of the area where we are situated - just 2 miles from where Rover was based in Longbridge. Richard Burden, the local MP, has also been here to visit us

Annette Jones
Frankley is an estate that was built then forgot about, it doesn't matter what you do or say nothing ever comes of it. Most of us have given up and don't participate in anything anymore. How many times can you report Drugs, Vandalism, Anti-Social-Behaviour (as you are asked to do) without either response or re-percussions, I love Frankley, how close to the Countryside can you be, but as a Community ....i didn't even know about last night till i saw it on the news..then it was to late to go...thanks to those in the know.

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