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DIRECTOR INTERVIEW

MARK LEWIS | PART 1

Thursday 20 October 2005

 
 

Mark Lewis' first film, Cane Toads, launched him as a unique director of films about animals (and humans). As we show all his films on BBC Four, he speaks to us about his work, from nappy-wearing chickens to the finer points of bulls' testicles.

BBC Four: Do you think your films fit into nature filmmaking in the broader sense?
Mark Lewis: I find what's called 'nature filmmaking' often concentrates on the A-list animals. There have been so many films about tigers and elephants or the lions of the Kalahari. They're all valid but I find the animals that I make films about much more interesting. We live with chickens and cats and dogs and rats. They are entwined with us and to fail to understand them is, I think, sad. As a reaction to the traditional natural history filmmakers, I find animals that are regarded as being banal, like the chicken, and celebrate them.

BBC Four: I read a comment on the internet from someone who rented The Natural History of the Chicken. They were disappointed that it wasn't a straight-up natural history film about poultry.
Mark Lewis: The whole genre of natural history filmmaking is a weird one that needs to be shaken up. A chicken that's wearing diapers in a house in Florida, that's its natural history. Their natural history has been bastardised by humans. I deliberately use titles. The Wonderful World of Dogs was probably the first. I didn't think it was a wonderful world for dogs because I was treading in their poo and getting woken up morning and night living in a city that was full of them. At the same time we had The Wonderful World of Disney on TV every Sunday night full of all these sweet animals.

BBC Four: Cane Toads was your first major film. What drew you to that subject?
Mark Lewis: I live in New South Wales and we call Queensland our 'Deep North', it's a very conservative state. The first time I went to Queensland I remember riding my motorbike at night. I was on some sub-tropical coast road which was covered with these green things. That was my first introduction to the toad - trying to dodge them at night. I am a devotee of keeping newspaper clippings and interesting stories and several years later I noticed a story about how the cane toad was spreading. The research led me down all of these diverse paths. Some people smoke the cane toad, some turn it into leather - so there were many different facets of the story. It really fascinated me that one small animal could be pulled in so many different directions.

BBC Four: Your films have a very distinctive style. Did that arise from thinking hard about how to tell all these stories about the toad?
Mark Lewis: The style I developed for Cane Toads came absolutely naturally. I wrote a treatment, sequences and a lot of storyboards. I made it a very structured film because I wanted to visualise certain elements. I guess the greatest influence on natural history filmmaking at the same time had been the BBC and David Attenborough's programmes. There was always one person leading you through all of
the stories. In this case the lay person was so much more interesting and had such a good connection to the animal that I found them much more appropriate to use than the so-called experts. So it evolved through a combination of things: finding great characters and deciding that they were the best people to tell the story. Filming RAT
Filming rats (at their level)
At the same I decided to do all of the interviews directly to camera because I felt the interviewee engaged with the audience in a much more direct fashion - the audience became a receiver of information rather than being a witness to a conversation. The other element that I really thought a lot about was filming the cane toads themselves. I never tried to look down on the cane toad with the camera; instead I always tried to shoot it from its own eye level. That was instinctive too: that if you're telling an animal's point of view you want to be looking across at it as if you're another cane toad.

BBC Four: The rat film is probably the most acute example of that...
Mark Lewis: [Laughs] It certainly is!

BBC Four: What sort of preparation do you have to do filming animals like this?
Mark Lewis: It's like directing real people. In order to direct a cane toad or a chicken you've got to know what motivates them from one side of the screen to the other. I find with most animals it's usually two things: food or sex. Obviously if you put a chicken out of frame left and put chicken feed out of frame right you know it's going to go along the line you want it to walk. So a lot of directing animals is learning what makes them tick. Rat was probably the most challenging film because when you encounter a rat it runs in the opposite direction. In order to do that film we used a lot of habituated rats. Also, depending on the various re-enactments you also have to prepare props and sets ahead of time.

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