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    Dating Black

    17 Mar 08

    Anita Rani looks at the difficulties that arise for young British Asians who have black partners.

    Despite increasing numbers of British Asians in mixed relationships, interracial dating and marriage between Asians and those from the black community are still relatively rare. ‘Dating Black’, presented by Anita Rani, questions why the Asian community is more accepting of mixed relationships with white people than those with black people.

    We hear from three young British Asians who have all dated black. Layla is struggling to tell her parents about her black boyfriend. Rickesh has finished his relationship with a black girl because of the hostility he and his partner would face from his parents and community and Rajiv has gone against his parents wishes after falling for Francesca.

    Produced by Baljit Sidhu and Perminder Khatkar

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          malik, Toronto,
          The whole issue here borders on racism, and British Asians have a chip on their shoulders when dealing with blacks. They consider themselves SUPERIOR to blacks but INFERIOR to whites, so naturally they go with whites, in search of attractive lifestyles.

          Kiran, Birmingham
          Asian girls who go with black guys are of loose moral character. I know two asian girls, one Pakistani Muslim other Hindu Gujirati who have slept around with everyone under the sun including black guys. When you realise the character of these girls you see why they go with black guys. Decent asian girls dont do non-asian guys because black guys are after one thing!

          AB, North West London
          I am a proud woman of Bengali descent in my 30s and have dated men of Afro caribbean descent and have three children with a Caribbean man. This is a subject I am very passionate about as I feel that there are crucial sides or perspectives to this debate which urgently need to be aired, and yes this does mean washing certain dirty linen in public!! The appalling attitudes widespread within the Asian community regarding their children dating Black people needs to be exposed for what they truly are.

          Regina - California - U.S.
          I am a black Panamanian and since I was a teenager in Panama I found Asian men to be so handsome/perfection. That preference led me to finally have the opportunity to date an Asian from India. It was a nice experience for me, my family enjoyed him. I never met his family, as they lived in India. I am still attracted to Asian men, but it is not common here in California to find an Asian man dating outside of his "group". Especially dating black, somehow I suspect that white would be more acceptable even if education and culture were lacking. I congratulate those brave enough to love with their hearts and admire those strong enough to contend with "feedback" their relationship inspires.

          Me Meena - London
          Oh dear me.. this is bad there is always an issue with culture and so on.We always seem to be making other people happy then ourself's! Even if the guy who is Asian is a little dark then they still have a problem….You know what you can fight this till your blue in the face and you will never prove your point!!Never mind…

          T London
          "Young British Asians who have all dated Black" You could have at least refered to us as "Our African/Caribbean friends" or even "Black partners" And what's this with "BRITISH Asians" when the Black person is not even worthy of the prefix BRITISH or the surfix PERSON.We are simply refered to as Black. You make it sound so degrading and this forum really does not help. We are all different and I accept that but please don't make us sound inferior.

          Khan - Worcester
          As a British Asian I think that it is wrong from Asian women to be dating and marrying Black men. This is due to the reason that they are perceived as being of a violent nature, uneducated and being bought up in an enviroment which consists of being anti social. Lets face the truth now Black's are looked down due to many aspects of their lifestyle. The young Asian girls are nowadays living for today and not really looking into the future their whole life revolves around a TV.

          Bhavna, London
          I have been in a relationship with someone from Zimbabwe for nearly four years.I think its completely unreasonable for Asian parents and even the younger generations to frown upon relationships between asians and those from african/afro-carribean backgrounds. It's a real shame, as I've found that me and my partner have a lot in common in terms of our culture and our values, and it's these that aren't necessarily always going to be apparent in a relationship between people from the SAME culture. Asians need to wake up, as to show prejudice towards black people is hypocritical, as you are basically acting towards people in a way that you wouldn't want to be treated.Going out with my boyfriend has actually taught me to value my own culture more. At the end of the day, when we look at each other, we don't see our difference in race, and this is not something we were worried about when we first started dating. His family has accepted me wholeheartedly and overall, my family are fine with it. I think people worry that these mixed relationships will sever our ties with our own culture, when in fact it's reinforcing our beliefs and adding to them.

          Anon uk
          Well I have 2 daughters and they are with Black guys which I did not like at first but now they are a part of our family which we are proud of.

          Savia
          I hate to be the bearer of bad news to the Asian community, but Sept. 11th made you black. I have seen so many racial attacks and words directed at Asians since that event. Even Asians who did not want to be friendly with blacks are now doing so. My black friend was married to an Indian guy from Guyana and they gave her HELL at first. Now, they are all a family:Thank God. I am Jamaican Indian and I did NOT grow up with racial issues; class issues, but not racial. I wish mankind will find a way to get along.

          Midlands Sikh.
          As politician Enoch Powell said, we must be literally mad to be sowing the seeds of our destruction... And Asian Network is helping the process along.

          Khamisi - South London
          I come from a family that's mixed both Indian and Black and admittedly there always seems to HAVE to be a sacrifice with this mix. I don't understand why people feel so ? Does being with an individual of African descent ('Black' makes it sound as if these are people who consist only of a colour) deny you a culture? Does it deny you the right to talk in your language and wear your clothes and go back to your country (you might think twice but it won't kill you)? Asians, people who have fought against white racism more than they have ever had to fight against Black people, are treating exactly as they have been treated. The truth is if your REALLY scared of if it happening, time to leave the country. Our communities live TOGETHER. Unfortunately for some if you want to keep your family ethnically 'pure' then you may as well live in a country where you'll most likely not find any other people but yourself. It's just not the case in England.

          Patrick ,Birmingham
          Yes it's an issue, with white people, black people, when it comes to inter race relationship but when do you see them trying to kill you for going out with an Asian girl?

          Shakira Khan london
          Love is blind we cant help who we fall in love with whether their black or white. We cant chose who we fall in love with.As long as we are happy why shold people care about what the Asian or the Black community think aout it .This is not Asia, its UK ; its a multi cultural country,of course living in the UK means Asians are going to have to mix with black people no matter what.We cant avoid them.I personally have to agree with my elders, i think it is a step too far. However I dont agree with parents disowning their child just becasue they are or were dating a blck person- hats just wrong. Our elders need to understand its the 21st centuary,they need to wake up and look arounfd ,the world is changing .

          Omar Texas
          I've been married to an African-American woman for 23 years this weekend and unfortunately some in the desi community still have issues with it. I'm fair skinned and she's dark. The first thing my mother said was why couldn't I find a white girl instead so that she could blend in. My 2 older children cannot blend in but the youngest can. It speaks volumes the the fastest selling products in both India and Pakistan are skin whitening products. According to studies done in both countries, people really believe the lighter they are the better their job and marriage prospects. This attitude does not apply to dating/marrying black but also against dark skinned desi's.

          Bob , Birmingham
          It's a complete shame why our Asian girls and boys are dating black people they have no concept about our culture, they are not part of our heritage. I say the old fashioned way is the best. Stick to your own!

          Young Educated and Black, U.S.A.
          Unfortunately like most minorities Asians, worship White physical features. That means the Darker you are the least attractive in this community. Aishwarya Rai, Preity Zinta, Hrithik Roshan,etc. are all examples of what is beautiful because of their near European features. Futhermore, Asians have remained Asians wherever they have gone Africa, Trinidad. They have made it clear that they do not want to mix and want to remain racially pure. Asians are even discrimantory against Asians, because of dark skin is condemned.

          Desi Boy.
          There is an element to this argument which is that it is the ultimate victory of past colonalists to see their "subjects" completely lose any sense of identity. While we may share some experiences, these are experiences that we have forced in to. So, don't do it. Be proud of who you are.

          Anonomous Hertfordshire
          I am a proud Black man in a relationship with a proud Asian woman. Since I met her my life has completly changed. She has shown me so much in her approach to life and emotionally and is totally devoted to me which would make any man feel good. I feel this gift she has, has been evolved from her culture and has now shown me also how to love and care for someone and find true peace. Since knowing her I have realised we have so much in common within society, our history and of course our foods so like a jigsaw we both fitted perfectly. I know this all may sound corny but who feels it knows it. When you look deep within your soul and become true to yourself and then open up your heart then true love comes in and my true love happens to be an Asian Princess. God bless you all even the Hatters for they no not what they are thinking. Find yourself then truth will follow....

          Anonymous, Washington, DC, USA
          I am second generation, American born, parents migrated to the US almost 40 years ago. I remember my parents saying "beta, put on sunscreen or you'll become dark!!!" This is an example of a racist and negative stigma of how the older generation has put on darker people in India. My parents are not racist, they do not literally mean what they say, but there are people that take this to the extreme in India. Another example is, in India, "fair complexioned" people aren't allowed to touch dark skinned people because they might get dark themselves. These prejudiced beliefs travel with the migrants from India and passed on to their children. It's up to our generation to change society and accept others for who they are not what they look like. This will ensure our children won't go through the same problem.

          Anon, London
          Oh for god's sake! Who you fall in love with is who you fall in love with - end of story. Daud from Leics - totally agree with you but such is the ignorance of our people (it's shameful).I, myself am in a very happy relationship with a Caribbean man. He is my equal and my best friend, and we enjoy sharing our cultures with each other. He provides me with everything a "good Asian man" could and so much more. Goes without saying that my family do not approve. It angers me that we are expected to give up our chance at happiness in order to please others. Get a life people - LIVE AND LET LIVE.

          Anonymus (London)
          Why is the asian network indirectly being so negative about it's own community? This is what makes asian looks bad. Come on, it's an issue, with white people, asian and black people, when it comes to inter race marriage. I think maybe you should have re looked at your approach to this discussion. I am disgusted with the asian network.

          Gulacy - London
          I'm amazed and saddened by the deafening silence on this issue. Are the asian community happy for this form of discrimination to continue?

          Daud from Leicestershire
          Do Asians feel that people of African descent are lower than them? Time for Asians to learn their history, they are closer to the black race than they think.

          Charl
          i think that asian people are the most racist. the call it culture to justify themselves as doing noting wrong. but its just lookin at poeple for thier race not the poerson they are.

          rajesh, east london
          you could have worded it better than 'all have dated black'. makes it sound sinister. look forward to hearing the docu anyway. good on asian network for doing this. i know a few people that have faced a lot of difficulty from their families for having a black partner. on the flipside, i also know an indian guy whos engaged to a black girl from trinidad and his family have been okay with it.

          shah birmingham
          I think its sad that asians especially girls have started to date black guys. i personally know 2 girls i went to uni with who say that one of their main reasons is that they have had enough of asian culture and lifestyle and want to move away.The other one said she thinks she looks cool walking around with a black guy.

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