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The Great Debate

What’s the most over-rated album ever?

Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band is rubbish. There, I’ve said it. The record that, seemingly by law, must appear in the Top Ten of every Greatest Albums Ever list cobbled together by lazy journalists in search of an easy cover story is, in fact, not even close to being the best Beatles album.

Clearly the drugs were better back in 1967, but to the modern ear much of it is just cod-psychedelic codswallop.

OK, assuming the world has remained on its axis after my articulation of such heathen sentiments, now it’s your turn. Next week, BBC 6 Music launches its poll to find the Most Over-Rated Albums Of All Time, but as per usual The Great Debate is getting in there with a studs-up, two-footed challenge while the ref’s not looking.

Now, of course, for an album to be over-rated it first has to be rated. There’s no point nominating S Club 7’s seminal Sunshine record, because it went tragically unheralded by the critical cognoscenti in the first place.

Instead, we want to hear about the albums that the consensus insists we hail as works of utter genius but, when you actually listen to them, turn out to be as mundane and inspiration-free as something by Ocean Colour Scene.
Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon

So here’s just a few to get you started. How, for example, did OK Computer become universally acknowledged as Radiohead’s best record when it’s clearly The Bends?

Isn’t Nevermind only really held up as revolutionary record because of its commercial achievements rather than its artistic ones? Has anyone actually listened to Astral Weeks since 1975? And The Dark Side Of The Moon? The dark side of my arse, more like.

And it’s not exclusively a historical phenomenon, either. Indeed, in these days of copy control and sycophantic journalism, molly-coddled modern bands can go through entire careers without ever having the harsh truth about their shortcomings pointed out to them.

Coldplay’s Chris Martin may have recently moaned about the treatment dished out to X&Y in the States but they hardly redress the avalanche of accolades bestowed upon what, at best, is really only a superior arena rock album.

And what about Razorlight, The Kings Of Leon, The Libertines and Antony And The Johnsons? Shall you tell them or shall I?

Actually, it will have to be you – an angry mob of Beatles fans armed with pitchforks has just turned up at the 6 Music office and I’m going to have to sneak out disguised as Chris Hawkins…
 

Mark Sutherland

Listen to your comments on air and hear the expert's view on the Music Week every Friday at 1900 and Sunday at 1300






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Comments so far

Beno, Bucks
Having read through the 'nominations' I found I agreed with many. However the absolute Kings of overated are.. Radiohead. I have listened to 2 of their albums (Hail to the.. and OK..) that I actually purchased! They were both recommended by various friends. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. Just awful. I really have tried with these but Thom Yorke is a dick!

Bill Misler London
Lots of people have brought up Astral Weeks and I would have to agree. But if you listen to it enough, you begin to appreciate it more than just the first couple of times you play it. It does contain Sweet Thing, however. I personally consider his finest song - absolutely beautiful. Josuha Tree was and is a great album.

Ruth, London
I find it difficult to believe that anyone dare utter 'libertines' and 'over-rated' in the same sentence, both the band and the self-titled album (although admittedly not as good as the debut) are legend and representative of a whole generation. As for people judging the music purely on what they read about Doherty in the tabaloids, why not listen with an open mind? Razorlight on the other hand have only gone down-hill since 'Up all night', someone really ought to tell Johnny Borrell before that ego of his gets any bigger.

Alex/Cheltenham
Pretty much 99% of rock albums made that are rated by the powers that be as all time 'classics' top (or bottom) of the piple being: Sgt Pepper, Led Zep IV, Pet Sounds, Astral Weeks, Dark Side.., Night At The Opera, Definitely Maybe, What's the Story Morning Glory, OK Computer, The Queen is Dead, London's Calling, Never Mind the Bollocks, The Joshua Tree, Purple Rain (Prince), Led Zep 11, The Wall (Floyd), The Stone Roses.. that's for starters. The 'magic' of these has passed me by. To be fair to Coldplay, White Stripes, Franz Ferdinand, Kaisers..as dull as they are IMO their albums are not yet revered by pro critics as all-time greats like those I've named.

Luke/Bodmin
The thing is everyone will like differnet music based on what their grew up on, what their friends/family listen to and then just personal choice. Also perhaps people should go back to previous bands their listened and see if their personal choice has changed. On first listen i disliked pink floyd and smashing pumpkins to name a few, but now i love them. I'm personally not a fan of elvis, 80's hair metal i.e motley crue, posion, yngwie as also the indie brit pop i.e oasis, verve,pulp. but you can appreciate it for what it is and how it affects our culture. Starting on old skool punk, the clash,sham 69,sex pistols,ramones i now listen to psytrance,ska,hardcore, breakbeats etc just cus its pop doesnt make it bad, its how generic the song is that makes it good/bad, unfornuatley most people buy into the blandest music nowadays, forsaking skill or enuthisasim for pure style. Hell i'd rather see a band that rocks out and looks like a bunch of tramps than another razorlight.

Dave, Canterbury
Anything by Tori Amos following her second album. It's about as pretentious as pop music gets. Pink Floyd's the Wall should be included (I like Dark Side of the Moon) as should anything by Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden or Motorhead. Also anything released by the Stones post-Brian Jones, the end of the 60's had them turn from rock & roll hipsters to pompous peddlers of dad rock. By all means include Blood on the Tracks or anything by Bob Dylan. His music is hopelessly dated crock for jaded Sartre-reading college freshers. Give me Nick Drake, early Leonard Cohen or the Velvets any day. And yeah I concur with others on here that the lovechildren of NME; Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs, Zutons, Futureheads and Muse are all pretty trite. I'm not fond of several US indie acts either that receive widespread acclaim. Bright Eyes are nauseatingly affected, the Decembrists are emo in indie clothing while Elliot Smith to me was all style and no substance. Anything rleased by the Red Hot Chili Peppers in the past fifteen years has been mediocre, I daresay their last good album was the Uplift Mofo Party.

Eric, Portland, OR
I agree. I like The Dark Side of the Moon, but it's easily one of the most overrated albums of the last 50 years. I hate the attention it gets, it's not even close to Floyd's best in any way shape or form

James/Cardiff
Saw a guy the other day ( I was at a gig for Nizlopi in Cardiff) by the name of Vijay Kishore he was 1st on and man he was spellblindingly brilliant,all I've found on him is his myspace page but you can sample his music there.I'd had afew drinks so not sure if he was as good as i think he was live(if you know what i mean )but his recordings sound equally good has anyone else on here seen or heard about him

Steve g / Bridgend
Anything by Pink Floyd

erin Imbil BRISBANE
well i think that it is very diffrent to what we have here

Kingston,Canada
My choice for most overratted album has to Van Morrisons Astral Weeks. This album is on almost everyone's list for one of the greatest ever. Always we hear how it changed music with its different styles and how it influenced countless musicians. However what you don't hear is how unlistenable it is. I know very few people who can listen to this all the way through and not get a headache. Runnersup have to be the first two albums from Oasis. What am I missing? Nasal drudge thats irratating.

Mike, Leicester
I want to 2nd this comment Richard Leek The most over rated album ever...... anything by queen - not difficult is it?

Jerick, Melbourne
Sgt. Peppers feels like a 'forced' album. 'She's leaving home' and 'Fixing a Hole' are a few examples. Morning Glory is just crap as is definietely maybe. And call me crazy but I thought Incesticide kills Nevermind.

dan t oldham
licence to ill by the beastie boys, 1st hip hop album to reach no 1 n its absolute load of sh**e!!!!!! most underated however is happy mondays squirrel n gman 24 hr party people plastic face carnt smile (white out) one of the best albums ive eva bought!!!!!!

Anil Dave, Ealing
WEll in my opinion the whole Grunge/ Punk genre is overated. I mean its not like they can play there instruments well anyway. Now the likes of Deep Purple,Opeth, Nick Drake are artists to be admired for their instrumental as well as lyrical prowess along with The Great Yngwie Malmsteen is by far the best guitarist/musician in the history of mankind.His Attack ALbum is by far the most under rated work ever.

Matt, Basingstoke
Oasis's 1st two are just dirge, sadly they replicated them and became the worlds crappest band. I think Nevermind is over rated and Robin, london, dinosaur jr are ace, yeh sound a lot like sonic youth (not really pixies), but "yr living all over me" is classic. i agree not as good as sonic youth, but dinosaur jr, husker du, sonic youth and pixies are far better than nirvana (not that nirvana were bad). The bends is over rated, Kid A is radioheads best. of course not many would agree!

mark, Cheshire
Well I always felt Dark side of the Moon was overated, it's a good record, but it's not there best and can be boring in parts. The Wall is far superior and so is Wish you were here.

Mark - Gosport
Got to be that pretentious twat James Blunt, also highly recommended anything by Coldplay, Radiohead and Meatloaf, but the ultimate p*** poor album of all time, Slow Train Coming - Bob Dylan, absolute sh***.

John, London
No mention of The Stone Roses self-titled in the article, tut tut. OK Computer is slightly better than The Bends and isn't actually that overrated, if at all. Definitely Maybe, The Velvet Underground and Nico, Nevermind, What's the Story (Morning Glory)?, Grace, Dark Side of the Moon etc. Also any of this dire Strokes/Kings of Leon, White Stripes manure.

Scott McIlravey, Dundee
Radiohead - OK Computer, boring, The Bends is much better The Verve - Urban Hymns, boring Oasis - (What's The Story?) Morning Glory, pretty damn poor Primal Scream - Screamadelica, utter crap Arcade Fire - Funeral, don't get it, at all, crap Coldplay - Any Album, boring

paul, belfast
I'd say it's oasis def maybe, half of it's great n the other half is shite n the great half wears thin very quick!!

Den liverpool
anything by coldplay just because they have fair trade tea bags it dont mean there albums have to be blown out of all proportion

Alan, Nottingham
It has to be "Metal Machine Music" by Lou Reed. Ok the basis is the record company wants him to produce another album that year. LR doesn't want to, so forced to contractually, he produces a double album of literally screeching guitars and feedback, with practically no lyrics. The general public are duped and buy the album. They may see the funny side but Lou ..... can we have our money back now please.

Jack, London
Mike from Smethwick. Electric Ladyland is the greatest album ever. It is all about the guitar. Geeeeeeeeeeeee taaaaaaaar. This is where Jimi cut out the other voices in the studio (the ones that begged for 3 minute radio friendly pop tunes) and made the music he heard in his head. It is less a collection of songs than a sonic experience, and it still astounds me that this guy could make such wonderful sounds with possibly the most overrated guitar of all time. True genius, and far a more revolutionary use of the studio than anything that has ever existed. Beautiful.

Mike, Smethwick
Electric Ladyland - The Jimi Hendrix Experience, I am a huge Hendrix fan, but it astounds me that whenever great albums are discussed this one is always rated above Jimi's other studio albums. 5% genius (Voodoo Chile (slight return), Come on) and 95% self indulgence. Please listen to Are You Experienced, Axis: Bold as Love or Cry of Love - REAL genius

Paul Colley - Wirral.
Honestly, I've been saying the same thing for years about The Beatles and especially 'that' album. Ever since, the resulting treatment I have received concerning my calm and sober judgement on the album has been akin to a 'witch' being questioned by Matthew Hopkins. As I also originally come from Liverpool, the above claim is indeed considered sinful. In fact, dismissing The Beatles often results in gasps of horror accompanied by some people covering the ears of the young with their hands lest they hear the 'evilspeak'.

Robin - London
To say Nevermind is a tad unfair. Especially when Dinasaur Jnr and Mudhoney are both quoted as superior bands. Both were dull and medicore living off the coat tails of Sonic and the Pixies. Mudhoney had one song - touch me I'm sick. Covered by and done better by Sonic Youth. Dinasuar - Feakscene is as good as it got and not very good at that. Sure Nirvarna may not be as good as the legend - but there are bands out there like Coldplay who are truly dire! Please lets stick to the real stinkers in the music world!!!

Nick Barnes, Preston
Are we all forgetting about how bad Franz Ferdinand was??? Since when does 1 mediocre song (Take Me Out) catapult a band to superstardom? The rest of the album was utter rubbish, especially Michael were he starts singing in German!!! And dont get me started about The Darkness!

Ella in Mojave
jon crooks swansea, trout mask replica...wash your dirty mouth

Dan, Australia
Is everyone here deaf? Yes, Sgt. Peppers is rated very highly but it deserves to be as high as it is. Those who say it's rubbish really have no idea. Think about how revolutionary 'Lucy in the sky' and 'A Day in the life' are timeless. Those who say the white album is overrated are fucking nuts. It's a double album and i could select 6 songs which aren't the greatest. Don't bash the beatles, every step of the way and every album has culturally and musically changed everything. They showed that evolution is possible and changed song writing forever. Anything by the rolling stones is fucking overrated. I get bored through all of their albums. Also pink floyd, the wall - bores the shit out of me.

Jon, Dartford
Nirvana's Nevermind. Grunge and this type of dreary rock might have been important to those on the other side of the atlantic, but on the streets of blighty during the early 90s this music had no importance. I bought the record, against my instinct on the recommendation of the music press, and soon realised that it was just a dirge of noise. Grunge may of been important to the americans and any culture that follows there lead but to me it was boring.

Neil, Dover
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses

Glen M , Liverpool
Only 2 mentions for Franz Ferdinand? I can't believe it. Maybe people are too scared to speak out against the sacred cows of the music industry, they really are a joke. If they would have been around in '79, they would have been just another novelty post punk band like the Vapours or The Leighton Buzzards, even The Skids can look down on them from a great height. As for their carefully manufactured designer look......stop it I'm going to pi*s myself.

Leave, Blank
Black Sabbath Paranoid. Esp. Iron Man. Extremely over-rated.

geri - love & kisses
anything by scary spice, i can't see how she get's touted as the most influential woman in music, really it is quite baffling, she's only ever made 3 classic albums.

Liambo, Manchester
The Bends is Radiohead's best album by far, OK Computer is good but for sheer quality of music The Bends wins hands down. Safe

paul, melbourne, australia
music is for appreciating. picking out what you dont like in it is contradicting why it was created. and then one day you'll find, ten years have got behind you, no-one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun. pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious.pretentious. (do i sound smart to you???)

Motormind, Rotterdam
Well, the comments here do confirm one suspicion of mine: by far the most people are tone deaf and/or musically challenged. Nevermind by Nirvana is filled ot the rim with well-written songs that are well-played and produced. The only downside is Cobain's sometimes atrocious singing, which is actually the worst in "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which then gets rated as the best song of the album... go figure. Nobody with a shred of musical insight would say that "Pet Sounds" or "Sgt. Pepper" are irrelevant. Sure, there is always taste... and I have to admit that I am not a big Beatles fan. But I clearly hear where Sgt. Pepper comes from, so I can understand why people value it so highly. My general notion is that people generally don't know what to think of music that is slow, off-kilter, softly performed or in any way not-in-your-face. They either rate is sky-high or think it's pretentious nonsense. The truth is - of course - in the middle: it's just music looking for an audience to like it.

Hank Anrose, Las Vegas, Nevada
Turd on the turntable! The Rolling Stones' "Exile on Main Street" is not even a good country album, let alone a masterpiece from the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band of the 70's and 80's. What's all this twangy hee-haw slide guitar?? "Listen to the horns; sometimes they sound like kazoos, sometimes like cheezy violins." To hell with Exiled, these guys should have been Deported!

mike,manchester
anything by oasis or bat out of hell

Chay - Peterhead
ColdPlay - Anything by this band is vastly overrated and overhyped as others here have stated. The music is so safe that 40 something year olds, of whic I am one, can get into it. For me that says it all.

Adam, The Wirral
Dark Side of The Moon and Sgt. Pepper fully deserve the credit they get for being seminal, monumental yet highly listenable albums. Admittedly not the Beatles bes, Pepper is still a great album and Dark Side Of The Moon is just plain genius. Definitely Maybe and OK Computer arealso near perfect albums which, despite the apperance of 'Computer' at no.1 in a Channel 4 album poll, are generally underrated in the face of things like, 'Bornt To Run', 'Astral Weeks' and 'Pet Sounds'. I generally agree with the comments about The Smiths, Libertines and Nirvana, all of whom are terribly overrated. Hmmm

neil, london
bat out of hell, tubular bells, dark side of the moon, thriller, morning glory, is this it? anything that sells millions and / or is championed by the NME

David, Georgetown
All Led Zepellin Albums, his music suck

Edward Neil Ayrshire
Mercury Rev/ Deserters' Songs. Absolute tripe. Twee vocals, gloopy sub prog instrumentation. And the most risible lyrics imaginable. Pretentious guff. I fell out with the friend who told me to buy this. "Grace" by Jeff Buckley. A Bowdlerized Zeppelin for girls. Poncey,fey and his voice makes my skin crawl. Anything by Britpop dullards Oasis or The Verve. Anything by Radiohead or Bjork-both pretntious beyond words.

Thomas Chambers Hertfordshire.
i think this survey shows just how much people think they know about music. albums like pet sounds and definately maybe have shaped the music scene and to discard them and say that they are overrated is to say that the whole of the past 50 years of music has been a waste of time has been a waste of time.

Ian, Southampton.
It seems to me that this is another chance to run out the old "build 'em up, knock 'em down" mentality. Most of the albums on the list (and most of the others mentioned through opinions posted) either capture a moment in time perfectly, or were born by way of a response to the popular being churned out at that point. To describe the sex pistols as having "no musical talent or ability whatsoever"was surely missing the point? Was punk not born out of an anarchic spirit? Nirvana may not have produced the best 'grunge' album, but the popularity of Nevermind shows that people, at the time, wanted something different to the bland boy/girl band based pap that was overtaking the airwaves. None of the albums on the list are perfect, but then which ones ever have been?

Robin , Brussels
WOW i wish they would do a most underrated album list for you people , see what comes up , that should be a laugh

Kes, Barnsley
How about Mike Oldfields "Tubular Bells", a truly awful and hideously dated instrumental album from the 1970s. Its the musical equivalent of masturbation, with all the clever multitracking and hundreds of instruments he played accompanying himself in a pseudo classical style. He's not an innovator, he's just a classically trained nerd.

Jamie From Mold
First off i noticed that a lot of these albums are called overrated becasue they are called "whiny" or "Slow" but whats wrong with being slow? and dont even go near Any Radiohead if you don't have the intellegence to understand the genious of the instruments, lyrics and voice. However, Nirvana's Nevermind boring the same tone throughout the same ablum(s) it's the same with any HIM album, always simple always the same. Oh well that is just my opinion anyway.

karl birmingham
Just because you don't like a band dosen't mean their rubbish. By the if oasis are a tribute band to the beatles then the beatles are to Rock n roll canon and led zepplin are to spirit

Paul, Paisley
I can't believe I'm agreeing with a yank (no offence Robert), but yes, The Smiths' "The Queen Is Dead" certainly is one of the most underrated works of popular music ever written/ produced. "I Know It's Over" is one of the saddest songs I've ever heard; it's up there with Roxy Music's "A Song For Europe".

Darren, Lancashire
At the risk of sounding controversial, I think there should be more Beatles albums on there. Mass producers of samey ten-a-penny pop music, very bland vocals and musical abilities that had been surpassed and have since been surpassed many times over.

Nick, Southampton
Anything that it is part of the current NME scene, such as Kaiser Chiefs, is rubbish and you may as well add in Coldplay (the worst, most irritating band ever). As for Nirvana's 'Nevermind', I would have to say that if there is any album eligible for best album ever it would be that one. People who have said, "We'll apart from 'Teen Spirit', the rest of the album is rubbish" are just the type of tossers who Kurt railed against.

William from Glasgow
Anything by Coldplay, not the worst band ever but perhaps the most over-rated band of recent times. The Stone Roses is a good album but not as great as everyone makes out, Ian Brown has a truly awful voice. Razorlight for me are in a word-pish.

Tom, Baldingstone
'Thriller' is exceptional but not nearly as good as 'Dangerous'. The album with 9 hit singles (!) and over 10 genres of music on one CD. Yet every song is a classic and completely original. Listen to 'In The Closet' and you couldn't possibly say that it was written in 1991. I doubt I'll hear anything that futuristic in 20 years. Will You Be There is quite possibly the weirdest, most arrogant and exceptional 'song' out there. The rock ballad 'Give In To Me' is tons better than anything on 'Nevermind'. As for other overrated albums - try 'Revolver' by the Beatles. Give me the 'Frog Chorus' and 'Pipes of Peace' anyday (simply brilliant original songs).

Phil from Kent
My first reaction to the poll was astonishment at seeing 'Pet Sounds' in the top ten. Then I decided to play the album again and found I enjoyed it all the more realising that so many people just don't get it, Thank you Radio 6 listeners - my view is that that the music you really like isn't overrated at all!

A music fan, Shrewsbury
Anything by coldplay. One word describes them - boring! What happended to real music? I'm not even old enough to remember proper bands like Joy Division et al but I know that is REAL music. Not like most of these wannabe 'modern' bands.

steve stevenage
Dare say you want to finish the debate on most over rated album and move on,but it looks like the popular younger vote wins out again- the libertines and the NEW coldplay album have hardly any history,shelf life,or unlike nirvana any claim to be the seminal album of a new musical genre-by the way theres not enoughfrank zappa on this station- now theres a man with a genre all of his own-ugly music ?? yes some,but do your research and there are some listenable gems and done with some humour(not a lot of that in music today is there?)

JImbo, somerset
"coldplay mean nothing more than mood-music to people: background stuff for whimsical, urban, ironing-washing passivity." "'a pocketful of dreams' has none of those things and for anyone to class it alongside such masterpieces as X&Y is, frankly, an insult" ........There must be 2 guys called Gerard in Stoke-on-Trent

JOHNNY, LEWISHAM.
BRIAN WILSON-SMILE. IT WAS USELESS TO TRY TO RECAPTURE THAT MOMENT LONG TIME GONE AND I WASTED MONEY AND TIME LISTENING TO IT.

johnthewatch, Manchester.
So, Yoko Ono is the only one to agree with me - Imagine was, and is, a load of old bollocks! Or maybe Lennon really was taking the piss! Oh, yeah, and most anything by Elvis.

Craig Bournemouth
people only vote for oasis because of the pure hatred for them not the music

jon crooks swansea
trout mask by beefheart utter crap

Jeff Seattle
Anything by Oasis (what, three albums in a decade?), anything by Gun's N' Roses or anything by White Stripes. All of these acts were or are being hyped well beyond their talents.

gerard, stoke-on-trent
how can anyone say 'a pocketful of dreams' by big fun is a classic album? no matter how much i listen to it, i'm simply not convinced. where's the shimmering beauty of the first two coldplay albums, the complexity of the lyrics or the haunting vocals? 'a pocketful of dreams' has none of those things and for anyone to class it alongside such masterpieces as X&Y is, frankly, an insult.

steve potter new cross
pub rocks best lp "never mind the bollocks" if you want punk rock listen to metal box ,josef k,or the stooges.ok computer .indie rocks finest moment ! more like a package to be sold to the "one lp a year" lot . just bland enough to fool the masses into thinking theyre listening "art"

Clint, Glasgow
Coldplay.....I would say anything by them is over-rated, but I guess their most rated was Parachutes and it's rubbish too(that's my vote). You can sing the praises of their "intelligent lyrics" all year, but it still won't make up for the fact that their melodies are uninspiring and mind-numbingly boring. It is a complete mystery to me why people like them, something I can't say for many bands.

Robert S Panico-Quincy, Mass USA
I truly believe that 'The Queen Is Dead' by The Smiths should be on the Most Underated Album instead of Overated! From the title track to the closer, "Some Girls are Bigger Than Others', this album has more hooks in it than Jaws! It has brilliant poetry that the guitar, bass and drums compliment in every song. And if thats not enough, Morrissey, Marr, Rourke and Joyce were better than the Beatles! BUY THIS CD TO SEE FOR YOURSELF BEFORE VOTING IT OUT!

Richard, Cardiff
Please leave off Coldplay. In fact, sit down, put some headphones on, take the stick out of your arse and listen to Till kingdom come and tell that it is commercial nonsence. Listen to Fix you and tell me that it is performed by a band that have no feeling or emotion. Listen to Swallowed in the sea and realise the songwriting ability. Listen to Twisted logic and understand the biblical and Platonic references. Then listen to your own comments and stubbornly reassure yourself that you were totally and utterly correct.

Richard, Cardiff
Music is about entertainment.Good music can best be defined by the number of people it entertains. These albums have entertained millions. Most of the comments here appear to be from people who just don't like this genre of music. Gerard, from stuck-in-tent, makes a fine example of this, dismissing Coldplay as "mood-music to people: background stuff for whimsical, urban, ironing-washing passivity". This is a total assumption, based on his own opinion. What you should say, Gerard, is that it is just mood music for you. For me, Coldplay are a good band producing good songs that, in the words of Michael Evis, "have introduced a new age in songwriting". And all this talk of "commercialism", remember this is a band who perform their songs live all around the world to sold out venues. Why not criticise the bands or artists that mime their own lyrics and cant even play an instrument. Very few people have understood what all three of Coldplays albums are about, mainly due to Chris Martin's reluctance to discuss the meaning of his lyrics.

Fergus (Malvern)
Definitely Maybe (a couple of decent tracks, but dirge-like or stodgy); Nevermind (Very clichéd and the singing style rather studied, pretty much without merit); Pet Sounds (which was okay, but didn’t draw me back to it repeatedly); OK Computer (really disappointing); The Joshua Tree (very bland and pretentious – strip away the effects and there isn’t a song beneath); Sgt Pepper’s (tremendously disappointing); X and Y (No light to balance the shade resulting in a bland mush). I don’t have a copy of The Libertines or Never Mind The Bollocks. I bought everything The Smiths did (because of Johnny Marr’s guitar playing) and I think that they never got it right over the course of an album. “The Queen Is Dead” is no exception. I suppose that the most over-rated album isn’t necessarily the worst, just the one that has the greatest distance between merit and reputation. I went for Nevermind, as it seems to have the greatest reputation but the least merit – I can find good things in all of the other albums.

Chris, London
I absolutely agree with much that's been said about My Bloody Valentine, Coldplay, Oasis and many others, while I too learned that you couldn't believe everything that you read in the NME through Astral Weeks and the Mary Chain. On the other hand, I think that much of Pet Sounds has a stunning and fragile beauty and, once I'd actually listened to Radiohead, I was forced to concede that they were really rather good. So, a difficult call, but I'm going to plump for Urban Hymns by the Verve. We had two copies of this. When we were burgled a few years ago, neither copy was stolen.

Sam. Melbourne, Australia
The Queen is Dead, overrated? Whatever.

Damien, London
X&Y was a personal disapointment and its successes seem completely unwarranted. To me it is the blandest and unintimidating piece of music to recieve commercial success in a very long time. Too eager to please everyone? Some spark please.

gerard, stoke-on-trent
the early '20's writing in today's music press are so (understandably) desperate to believe that they're writing in a time when music is monumental and life-changing that there are thousands of albums that are overrated right now. coldplay mean nothing more than mood-music to people: background stuff for whimsical, urban, ironing-washing passivity. i admire them for being so lucky to be alive and making music now when they can get away with it. fair play to them. i resent having bought such tuneless, unoriginal, and yet apparently such life-affirming dirge as the others' album and barely-better-than-cock-rock-stroke-tin-machine-nothingness that knobrots the ears worse than the latest album by the music. we're trying so desperately hard to believe in new music nowadays that we're too scared to admit when music actually is good. we need it confirmed by smarmy sycophants first. personally, i love the kaiser chiefs and if anyone's been underrated in the last 30 years look no further than the wonderful julian cope. but then he doesn't care so who cares? X and Y by coldplay? oh dear! like any of our consciences really believe in uniqueness as a virtue anymore.

Elizabeth Angus, London
Have to say everything with Pete Doherty. Haven't even heard The Libertines or Babyshambles (super name), but already KNOW that's over rated. He is an interesting crack whore, but come on...

John, Southport
I just feel so smug because so many people listen to The Beach Boys in general and Pet Sounds in particular and they simply don't get it... and I do! And my life is so much richer for that... in fact, I'm just a superior being. Ha, ha, ha! Nee-na-nee-noo-nah! (P.S. ...yes, it does have to be Sgt. Pepper, doesn't it - of course it is a half-decent album but the sheer volume of hyperbole pushing it clear to the top of the over-rated list.)

Andy, Brighton
Kaiser Chiefs - Employment. Everything terrible about new music today. Bunch of NME rubbish if you ask me.

tony,manchester
top of my list is primal screams screamadelica, for once i listened to the hype and got it without a listen, bad move, what utter crap!!.there are others that have been mentioned here(step forward happy mondays)and an honourary mention to massive attack, the single unfinished sympathy is usually near the top of best ever...not for me tho', so bad that i couldn't even be bothered to find out the name of the album.

Tony, Birmingham
OK Computer is definitely overrated, a good album but thats all, it always tops polls as one of the best albums ever, but i have always said there arent enough good songs to justify this - some classic songs but not enough!

Pat, Newcastle
x&y album of Coldplay was very disappointed. It seems that fame and success affected their creativity. Its sound too commercial and very boring. Mind you the same thing happened to radiohead. Their first albums were good, the more recent one very unevenful.

Julie, Manchester
Well for me Its gotta be David Grey, I mean what's all that about?? His voice makes me cringe and he must have hit every branch on his fall from the top of the ugly tree. I reckon Simon Cowell would have sent him out of the audition room crying!!

Theo, London
I think that Blue Lines by Massive Attack must be considered as one of the most overrated albums ever. It was a critics' fave at the time, and subsequently has often been hailed as 'sublime' or the 'best dance album ever' or the 'most ground-breaking' or the 'best thing since tea and biscuits'. Rubbish! There is one truly great song on it, Unfinished Sympathy, and one other half-decent track, Safe From Harm. The rest is a sleep-inducing collection of lame dub grooves that any half-arsed producer could knock out. Hardly 'classic' form. Compared to other records around at the time, particularly Screamadelica, Pill n' Thrillls..., and Three Feet High And Rising, it doesn't even compare. Massive Attack went on to create some sublime pop moments, see Teardrop from Protection, but Blue Lines is not deserving of all the praise it gets. I'd rather have some tea and biscuits.

Jim, Reading
Sgt Pepper: A collection of novelty songs for Christmas parties. Swap Yellow Submarine for A Day In The Life and Revolver is Real Madrid to Sgt Pepper's Queens Head Sunday second XI

Lucy, St Andrews
Hurray for other people who recognise Pet Sounds for what it is! It's pleasant enough to listen to when your hangover prohibits anything more challenging, but I just can't get over how insipid it is. Down with liking music because you should!

Nick, Dublin
First of all, Coldplay can't be on this list. Anyone who knows anything has to realise they are, at best, an average bunch of middle of the road pub rockers. No decent music fans or reviewers rate them anyway. The Sex Pistols' '.. Bollocks' musically is certainly no great masterpiece, but that was the whole point of it. Therefore the most over-rated album has to the Beatles White Album. While not a big Beatles, I can at least understand the talent behind Sgt Peppers, Revolver, Abbey Road etc. But the White Album only has around 10 good songs, while the other 20 are purely filler material. Very over-rated

Sean Twist, London Canada
I thought I was the only human on Earth who despised 'Pet Sounds'. I remember hearing Paul McCartney praising almost to the point where it could heal the sick--so I went and bought it. Last time I listen to that mop haired tree hugger.

Al in Chatham
What can I say, apart from the life is to short to waste on the angst ridden psuedo drivel that is Coldplay

Mick B from Manchester
Will x & y turn out to be a classic in Twenty years time I don’t so. It’s probably unfair to even include it in this debate but by including it in this list it’s going to be the clear winner.

Brent Anderson, Kansas City, Missouri (USA)
Though I love the idea of this debate as there's no end of material over which to squabble, gotta say that in throwing down a list like this we lose a lot of important context. For example, one might not like the songs of "Sgt. Pepper's", but there's absolutely no doubt the album pushed sonic and recording capabilities far beyond where they'd been up until that point. Timing is everything too. "Never Mind the Bollocks" ain't art, but it was the right album at the right time that has influenced countless of today's "punk" bands. Let's not forget too that timing plays out in how media reacts to records. Slow news period? A highly anticipated release from a big artist all of a sudden becomes epic. Look at Radiohead. Most Radiohead fans I know, myself included, would easily pick "The Bends" as their best, but we also love OK Computer, if anything for its balls and breadth. At the time there was little like it out there. Point is, critics will always pick something of debatable merit and elevate it to a point that it disgusts someone.

Gareth Ross, Hitchin
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam Oh Lord...where do I start? The music press were falling over themselves to praise this album to the skies and the band were just helping themselves to awards. So I bought it and now six years later it sits in my CD collection mocking me like a vomit stain on a wedding dress. This album is so bad it hurts to listen to it and makes me feel quite nauseous.

Josh Rogan, Cambridge
Great idea to finally debunk the most over-rated albums of all time! Danny Baker did a similar thing on Radio 5 some years ago with ‘legendary’ musicians. He suggested that many of these artists’ work, whilst held in huge esteem by music critics, was in fact real garbage. Memorably cited were the work of Miles Davis, Frank Zappa, John McLaughlin and Yngwie Malmsteen. Perhaps this topic should be pursued after the final results of this current debate are discovered. ‘OK Computer’, by the way, is definitely not OK at all. That’s one hard drive that should have been wiped before reaching the ears of the general public.

JULES LONDON
Good old controversy for the sake of it; whipped up by the usual suspects about the usual suspects. What happened to your imagination ? Yes Sgt. Pepper's will never be as great as Love's 'Forever Changes' and the Beatles own 'Revolver', but I'm sure you find those overrated too. Truth is, can't all records that have been raved about at one time or another, be deemed to be overrated ? That's what music journos do. Pick up any copy of Mojo/Uncut/Camping and Caravanning Weekly to find the latest bunch of overrated overpriced offerings. But hey, good call on Razorlight, and don't forget Starsailor, Keane, and insert any 3rd division thin indie gruel here. Now how about a most underrated albums in the world ever debate - surely the oh so predictable next step ? Obvious candidates: Blue Aeroplanes 'Beatsongs'/'Swagger', The Room 'In Evil Hour', Talk Talk 'Laughing Stock' Super Furry Animals pick any album.....

Stuart Newport
I wanted to vote for London's Calling but it wasn't short listed. Half an album of decent songs stretched across two records. In fact you can add Sandanista to that list; a quarter of a decent album stretched across 3 records. This stuff is never as good as you seem to remember it.

Maff B, Sheffield
Original Pirate Material by The Streets? True, it is original but it sounds more like a GCSE project (and one that could only get a D!)

Cookie, Scarborough
These comments are all opinions based on individuals taste. There is no way you can rate an album, someone out there will agree or disagree. Please remember that the Spice Girls are all Millionaresses, why? Because a lot people rated Spiceworld.

Zec, Nottingham
Had to vote for the abortion of a record which is 'The Libertines'. I can only presume that it was meant to sound like two guys going into a studio and just 'vibing' off each other, without any thought being given as to how it actually soundws. If so then the plan worked. I've been more impressed by the widdlings of the fools who insist on wrecking everybody's festival by strolling around the site constantly playing thier acoustic guitars. Disappointed to see that '(What's the Story) Morning Glory' wasn't on the list, along with anything by New Order post '84. Try listening to anything they've done since then without laughing.

dave - Knutsford (UK)
Pet Sounds: It's not "rubbish", in fact it's not bad. But it is overrated. As for "pushing the technology to it's limits", maybe so, but it still doesn't make it that good to listen to.

Rob Hughes, Stoke-on-trent
It has to be Ok computer bu Radiohead. It is the worest album ever and it is by the dulest band ever. Very por album by a very poor band. I don't know why people rate this band or album. How can people say Defintley maybe or The Libertines is overated they are 2 of the best albums ever made.

Paul Wigley Wirral
The Second Coming was more disappointing than overrated. I go with the comments about My Bloody Valentine's Loveless. Not so much a dirge as an inexplicable noise. I read that Alan McGee thought the tape sent to Creation by Kevin Shields was warped. Unfortunately it was not. Three years and several hundred thousand pounds for something that could have been knocked up after a night in the pub and a kebab

Simon, London
The Libretines (or more importantly Pete Doherty)..... over over over hyped. The 'critically acclaimed' (?) reunion concerts in 2003 were named amongst the top 20 concerts of all time by Q magazine... are you having a giraffe?! Doherty himself, utter rubbish and useless at Live8!

Christian, Hong Kong
I cant believe that there aren't more nominations for Oasis ?? This band has to be one of the most hyped bands of all time and yet they should be struggling to make a living as joke tribute band. Every album they bring out is apparently their best ever but its always the same regurgitated rubbish ? The music is lifted from any 60's albums they can get their hands on and the lyrics appear to have been written by a chimpanzee for all the sense they make. Definatley Maybe/Morning Glory any of them, they truly are awful.

Yoko Ono, New York
Some of The Beatles' individual songs make Lennon and McCartney a couple of the most skilled songcrafters there have been, but there is so much dross on their albums. Sgt. Pepper is one of five or six of their albums that unfortunately has no particularly great songs on it, thus relegating it to the dustbin (and what is so special about A Day In The Life? - it's a cluttered, melody-devoid mess). Their best albums only have four or so good (or great) songs on them, and some of their non-LP singles are fantastic - but let's not try and pretend earlies like I Want To Hold Your Hand, Love Me Do et al are anything special (same with Lady Madonna and Hello Goodbye-like tracks - many of their most famous songs, if nicely arranged, sound like the first things that came out of their heads). And Imagine is bollocks.

relic, Preston
This is the best vote for ages. I'm torn between Coldplay and Radiohead, but will vote for OK Computer on the grounds that I have actually heard it, and my views on Coldplay are merely based on the fact that they keep re-releasing the same single repeatedly with a different title.

Craig Bournemouth
BLUR parklife Just average. Yep that's it average. Also Pink Floyd and all the guitar bands aleast Oasis admit they stole some of their riffs and solo's unlike others who stole them from Balck artist in the 1930's

Rob, Castleford
I dont think a lot of the albums mentioned are overrated, i think over exposed maybe, the libertines albums were amazing, Ok Computer aint as good as the bends but its still damn good, and as for nevermind, its an awesome album, your slating some great music, name some better albums? they are out there, but there isnt many of them.

Louise, Glasgow
I think that people are missing the point about why some of these albums are great. It is not all about the music itself. It is about what the music conveys. With Oasis it's the energy of youth. WIth the Beach Boys it is the darkness behind the songs and that is what is important about the albums. Not necessarily musical innovation. Coldplay are overrated though...

Richard Levesley, Edinburgh
I'd like to nominate "A Love Supreme" by John Coltrane. Skronky supposed "jazz" that sound like the drums are being pushed down the stairs while he attacks his sax with a set of bellows. I've only ever got about 20 minutes in before the need to vomit over comes me. Why is this a "classic" of modern jazz?

Faye - Exeter
I voted for Never Mind the Bollocks as it is surely music's biggest lie (that this is of any worth whatsoever) which has gone on far too long. All style over substance, no musical ability or talent whatsoever. Utter bollocks. Also being a massive Radiohead fan, I cannot vote for OK Computer but I have to press the forward button when No Suprises, Let Down and Fitter Happier come on. Should an album which consistently tops the best ever charts have such bland/nonsensical crap on it?

Kev - Burgess Hill
Marquee Moon by Television. Tom Verlaine's whiney, nasal 'singing' makes my gums peel back from my teeth and the tunes (such as they are) go nowhere for ever and ever and ever and ever.And the solos! - awful noodly, prog rock drivel that would be dismissed outright if an 'edgy' New York, new-wave band hadn't produced it. Dreadful stuff.

Blunt / Sydney
Most hugely overhyped, over-rated, over-lauded and fiercely protected record is Jeff Buckley's 'Grace'. Worst of all his estate/publishers have flogged it like a dead horse with yearly repackages ad nauseum. It's ok, yeh, but one of the greatest records of the 90's? Indie icon? Gimme a break. The best track was a Cohen tune. Jeff was a good lookin kid with a musical pedigree and a timely death. He drowns and suddenly the sound of him coughing on tape is musical genius. Go figure.

Richard Read - Salisbury
I can understand why some have nominated "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac (although I liked it in small doses)and support those who pan the Radiohead offerings (ok in parts but never "classics")I can also appreciate that there are those that find "Trout mask replica" unappetising - although the good Capt is a fave of mine I have to say that "Safe as milk" is a far better album and one that should be rated as a classic. I could never understand how The Eagles generated so much adulation and how anybody could rate Guns'n' Roses highly is beyond me - good to average band totally wrecked by a "singer" who sounds like a strangled cat. Anything Madonna does is totally overrated and who on earth told Dido she could sing? Both The Strokes and The Libertines are good examples of runaway music press hype unsupported by any talent. I have not heard "Pet Sounds" in its entirety so my vote goes to "Sgt Pepper's" - if it had been done by anyone except The Beatles it would have sunk without trace.

Sudhir Menon/Singapore
Has to be Smile by Brian Wilson... Having waited foorever for "the greatest album" of all time.. I went and bought 2 copies,1 for myself and the other for my 18-year old niece. Big mistake... I must say.. even I, an unabashed fan of Good Vibrations throught the version on this album was utter crap. And the rest of the record was worse. And to top it all off, my niece isn't talking to me anymore.

Ricky Cardiff
I genuinely cant believe what people are saying here. It's as if someone has gone through my record album and decided to tear it up! Ok computer has had a massive impact on music. X&Y is a great album, i cant understand what people were expecting from it, because i was expecting a coldplay album and that's what we got. For some reason people expect them to be a different band creating a different sound. complaining they're "wet" is wrong, because they simply wouldnt be able to keep their broad appeal if they supplied music for the mosch pit. Sgt Peppers was a turning point for the beatles, moving from their rather simple "background rock" on to more complicated, experimental and new sounds. the most overrated album of all time is anything by eminem, in particular his recent album, which is utter nonsense.

Daryl Hammond
Daryl , Suffolk franz ferdinand , dull , boring , uoriginal

East Ham,London.
Nevermind by Nirvana is very overrated.I bought it,played it once,hated it and returned it.What rubbish.I'll never understand why it's so revered.

Cardiff
It's a good idea for a debate, but my word! Will people please lay off coldplay? I bet half the people only gave it a quick listen having already decided they would hate it, and the other half are going on "Speed of Sound" alone. I hated Coldplay for the same reason I hate Nirvana - the sheer number of dire imitations. When my brother got X and Y, I was sure I'd hate it because Embrace, Athlete and Keane were still fresh in my mind. But I absolutely loved it inspite of myself, it simply sounds awesome in the dark on the ipod. It truely is a different sound for them, but perhaps the differences are too subtle for you people. I mean come on, shatter some real illusions. Coldplay? Everyone knows they're overrated. But who cares, enjoy them all the same. This is supposed to be about the real untouchables - The Beatles, The Velvet Underground, Joy Division and for goodness sake Nirvana. And as for all you "The Bends is better than OK Computer" people out there, please say something original. I vote for Nevermind or Dummy.

jonnycoolman uk
I agree with the comments about Astral Weeks. Apart from the first track the rest of it is depressing drivel. I still recon Sgt.Peppers is a great,timeless album. On the other hand forget about Pet Sounds.Why doesnt anyone ever mention Freak Out! By the Mothers Of Invention? Now there is an underated album!

Tom, Hastings
Why no London Calling by The Clash? Actually anything by the Clash!!!

James Griffin, London SE19
The only people I know who rate Pet Sounds are music producer types - apparently it uses loads of amazing new (in the 60's) techniques. Good for Brian Wilson - whoopee! I guess that's why it's overrated. However, listen to it as an album, a collection of songs, and I defy you to really enjoy it. You'll tell people you do but you don't. You're like me, you bought it to fill up your back catalogue of 'masterpieces' to beef up your collection but you never ever play it.

alan cumming aberdeen
to those who think pet sounds is overrated.are your ears painted on?go read some music history, listen to rubber soul then listen to pepper then listen to pet sounds. brian wilson was on his own! lennon had macartney and they both had george martin to put it all together.wilson or macartney? i know which career id be more proud of.

Nick-Cheltenham
I'm surprised no ones mentioned the Foo Fighters yet. Let's face it they're rubbish, it's Bon Jovi all over again. Still fair play to 'nicest man in rock' Dave Grohl for being in 2 of the most overrated bands in history.

Ged, Leeds
It has to be The Second Coming you wait for ages and then..... What happened to what should have been the greatest band in the world ever?

Simon - Hitchin
What, no mention of Morrisey? Ah well, there was only one small boy who saw through the Emperor's new clothes - perhaps I am he.

Chris Hunter Farnham, Surrey
Oh dear, the list could go on forever. Must admit the 'Libertines' album is toilet. Beach Boys have always left me cold and the Beatles peaked with 'Revolver' as any fule kno. Personally I'd dump 'Surfer Rosa' and 'Doolittle' by The Pixies in the skip. Terrible sub-ordinary indie. Couldn't write a tune if their lives depended on it. Also any album by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers. How can any band fail to develop so little, over such a long time, after one half decent first album....

John Addison. Aberdeen
'Oasis'-'Definatley, Mabe' Would rather lick the soles of my own shoes than listen to that crud.

chris, glasgow
Firstly may I say that despite being a huge Coldplay fan I am immensly dissapointed with X&Y. With the exception of 'Fix You' and the last track it is by far the weakest of their three releases. However even this sub-standard work still tans the ass of the mediocrity of such artists as oasis, kaiser chiefs and bloc party. So, in my opinion, what is the most over-rated of all? I would like to throw into the hat Guns N Roses' Appetite For Destruction. Axl Rose's whining voice is utterly repellent and with the exception of Slash the rest of the band's talent barely goes up to 1, never mind 11!! My brother continues to believe the comeback is happening (what's it been now, 10 years?!!) They, along with just about everything else in the 80s (apart from the A-team) should be locked away and never mentioned in public again.

Stuart, Liverpool
Coldplay are awful full stop. X&Y is as dull as the last two albums. Middle of the Road is too nice of a comment to make about this drivel. At least the previous two albums had a couple of half decent singles on them. 'Fix You' - Messers Mark and Lard could only describe it as pants. But you can not mention. And then there is U2 - The Joshua Tree has 3 good songs on it, that does not equal a good album, unless its only 3 songs long... if only

John Pearce, Bolton
I remember when Sgt. Pepper was released and, quite rightly at the time as it was the Beatles, there was hype as large as anything we see now. The remarkable thing was that although there was the general feeling that it was the greatest album ever it was difficult to find any individuals who actually held this view. As many have said since the Beatles best music was generally pre-65 but the most memorable single tracks were post-65. There is no doubt that "A Day in the Life" would feature in any discussion of the best single track ever but I would also venture that Sgt. Pepper was not the best Beatles album and may even suffer in comparision to the sheer simplicity and power of Imagine, released by John Lennon after the split. Sgt. Pepper was not an awful album but it was must be judged against the standards it tried to set and the hype it has generated for nearly 40 years; it would be difficult to find any individuals who would not accept the view that just maybe, it is the most over-rated album ever!

Stratford upon Avon
Two controversal fighting brothers from manchester, in the right place at the right time. Listern to thier album now and the tunes are dull and lyrics boring. They made their money on strong bad brothers promotion and not music, off the back of the manchester music scene.

Gary Clark - Billericay
I agree with David S - It has got to be Radiohead's "OK Computer, except it isn't just the fans that think it's the best album ever, it's the music critics as well. It's a depressing mess. Nothing rocks, melodies are on short order...best album? Nah, biggest load of tripe, more like.

Andy Forster Birmingham.
Never mind the bollocks manufactured boy band playing subheavy metal and fronted by catweasles younger brother - rubbish then rubbish now.

Paul, Liverpool
Oasis - Definately Maybe. mindless nonsense with no soul. agressive monkeys celebrating their own stupidity. Pet Sounds / What's Goin' On / Revolver / Bowie's Low. Oasis could never get anywhere near these masterpieces on invention

Robert Spence York
Just have to put a few words forward in defence of Van The Man. The criticism meted out on Astral Weeks does not bear scrutiny. This is a 1968 album and we are still talking about it. A little dated maybe but a product of its time and cultural ambience. There are several songs that still stand the test of time and like most of his albums there are the two or three classic tracks that trash the competition. The wonderful 'Madame George' evokes such emotion and gives us a glimpse into Van Morrison's past and ours too from that generation. For me the Sex Pistols 'Never mind the Bollocks' were a social phenomenon but a waste of space musically.

David X, Paisley
I think that too many people are trying to sound clever when they freqently seem to have entirely missed the point of the album they are slating. It is easy to criticise things that you don't understand. Ok Computer and the Joshua Tree have now taken on a life of their own based on the quantity of best of.. lists that exist now and peoples need to classify and order things. When people are asked what is the best album ever they simply revert to the last 'top ten' list they remember and pick the one they know or the one that would make them sound most musically savvy. Both of these albums are excellent, but are overrated for the reasons above.

David /Morecambe.
For me the most over-rated album of all time has to be Pet Sounds.I should have known by the naff sleeve that the album was only average, but was convinced to buy it due to Paul McCartney saying how great it was. I was sadly disappointed, although to be fair it does have three good tracks, (Wouldn't It Be Nice, Sloop John B, God Only Knows,) but the rest is dire. With regards to the Beatles Sgt. Peppers, it does sound dated now, but at the time it was groundbreaking stuff. However it was certainly not their best.I prefer Abbey Road, but to be honest all the Beatle albums were excellent.

Eskinator, Edmonton Alberta CANADA
Anything that Fleetwood Mac did with Stevie Nicks is crap (what the hell is she singing? Can't make out a word). Most of the American band the Eagles music makes me want to hurl and what's up with Celine Dion?

David Reeves, Edmonton, Canada
Radiohead - The Bends. Do you want cheese with your whine?

Aiden Canaday, Ammanford
Don't get me wrong, Smells Like Teen Spirit is an astounding song, but it's clearly out of it's league on the LP - Nirvana's Nevermind. A hugely underwhelming record, do you not agree? I first gave it a listen in the late nineties and gave it the thumbs down to the detest of my friend's older sister, who was all for it and in the know. But, no. As for Astral Weeks - a milestone of consistent songwriting for an album, along with The Bends. Ok, OK Computer has been hailed as pretty much the godfather of modern albums, but respect, it is a brilliant listen, pushing many buttons as well as boundaries as far as pop and rock music goes.. So yeah, Nirvana's second album gets the thumbs up, or down, from me..

AB - Gwynedd
Pet Sounds is deep and is an incredibly complex album. It pushed multi tracking to its limit and had the best musicians in LA queuing up to play for Wilson. Ask Spector or McCartney.

AB - Gwynedd
Pet Sounds is deep and is an incredibly complex album. It pushed multi tracking to its limit and had the best musicians in LA queuing up to play for Wilson. Ask Spector or McCartney.

James Brunt, London
I'd have to nominate 'Everything Must Go' by the Manics. The first Album was fine pop rock, the Holy Bible was interesting but everything after that is holds the same interest than by Grandad's sock collection. And no I am not a Richey Edwards fanatic

Iain, Newcastle-under-Lyme
"Trout Mask Replica" is the most overrated. Not the worst record ever - we have Biz Markie for that - but the one with the most clear water between what it sounds like and what are led to believe it sounds like. Oh - and I'll get lynched for this - but I think that "Automatic for the People" is overrated, too. Again, it's a good album; it's just not worth the adulation, and not a patch on the vastly underrated "Murmur" and, er, "Up".

Jomes, Taunton
X&Y, and I don't even have to listen to it to know that, because that's the beauty of blind, instinctive, envy fueled prejudice, so there. Oh, and hopefully it will help The Queen is Dead avoid the prize.

Mark , Nottingham
Clearly, some people haven't got the knack of this. An album can only be one of the most over-rated of all time if it is pretty highly rated, over time. For recent albums, this means that, in twenty years' time, aging pundits will be on the radio, telling us how it not only singlehandedly saved the music scene of the day but also changed their life, changed your life, helped to raise the titanic, boost a fledgling economy, had a cure for cancer in its liner notes and plenty of other piffle. People won't say that about Coldplay, whatever they say now. Unfortunately, people will about Oasis; they'll be the tiresome, unimaginative sort and that's why Definitely Maybe is the most overrated of all time.

Alex, Bracknell
Anthony and the Johnsons Absolute pap, warbling girly voiced rubbish.

Guang Cheng Shie--Taipei
COldplay's X&Y is the most overrated one. It seems like the whole Brip-pop scene is waiting for them to wake the whole world up. Sadly, the whole world doesn't really feed back anything significant.

David S, Macclesfield
For me it has to be OK Computer - but to be honest it's not Radiohead's fault, it's their fans with their ridiculous belief that this is the best album ever*. Such comments are simply ignorant (understandable though if you've been brought up on a diet of Britpop). The album itself is weak though, it never really comes alive and any attempt at experimentalism is purely mediocre; it's as if the band were conscious that anything too interesting may have an adverse effect record sales. As a result you end up with a truly unremarkable album. *Over-zealous fans of the Beatles are also guilty of the above for beatifying numerous albums which contain a handful of reasonable pop-songs.

CJ, Stockport
Never mind the bollocks - Exactly. Says it all really. Bollocks

Dark Mobson,Satelitte of Love
Why is Colplay's latest album even included in the list? It should never have been rated in the first place. Terrible bland music for 30 somethings in their IKEA nightmares. What a horrible world we live in when the likes of the Beckhams and this bunch on coporate butt munchers rule our collective conscience. Yeeeuuuwww...it's even worse than the Joshua Tree.

Danny, Blackpool
While you are correct with the fact that Sgt.Peppers is'nt the the best album the beatles have ever done, it is far from rubbish. Stop trying to be controversial people. X&Y has to get the vote for me. When you ask for the most overrated albums you have to take into account the hype and the number of records sold, both of which X&Y had too much of.

Tom, Shrewsbury
God only knows why many people think this is one of the best albums ever made. I'm waiting for the day when Pet sounds is actually seen for what it is.Wouldn't it be nice if people realise that this music has no relevance Here today, or maybe I just wasn't made for these times. My friend says Sloop John B is one of the best songs ever written, but I tell her "Caroline no, Don't talk to me about chuffing harmonies". Let's go away for a while and sit in a dark, quiet corner to think about whether this album is one of the greatest ever made or not. I know there's an answer and that answer will be no. This album is dull. If You still believe in me you will know I am not being deliberately harsh. That's not me, I just think this is the most overrated album EVER!

Eddie Fiss, Billericay
Has to be Radiohead. Most of the others are just poplular and/or successful. Coronation St is popular, but nobody would rate it as the best of TV. Sgt Pepper DID change music, and Bollocks did its bit. Never met anyone who rated Astral Weeks to start with. But Radiohead fans are different. Not content just to like some affected, retro, pseudo-proggy shit, they have to bang on interminably that it is a work of genius, inventive, ground-breaking, interllectual, will change the world etc etc. Crap. It's just the Dark Side of the Moon all over again, but with out-of-tune singing.

Alex Moseley, Leicester
I'd rather hear what my Pet Sounds like on record. Every time I saw 'Pet Sounds' crop up in the 110 best of this, and the 50 best of that, I thought of the jingly jangly seaside ditties I'd always associated with the Beach Boys, and couldn't equate. "No!" cried a few critics and a couple of acquaintances: Pet Sounds is completely different. They transcended to another dimension when they made this one. So finally I bought it, wondering what this new level could be. Fifteen minutes in, I realised. That one other level of the known world where jingly jangly seaside ditties are considered the peak of creative activity. Brilliant? Departure? Creative pinnacle? I promptly sold my copy and spend the proceeds on a bottle of suncream.

Wimp of Northampton
What about Rumours - Fleetwood Mac? over produced cocaine fuelled drivel! Always in the top ten best, Sugary crap that I think instigated Punk more so than the prog rock brigade.

Ben Bushey/Watford
I'd say Pet Sounds too, and Tubular Bells. One glorified bubblegum pop, the other boring as hell. Can't stand Meatloaf either. Totally disagree about the comments on The Stone Roses. The best band to come out of the 90's bar none, and sound EVEN better when you listen to them today!

sean - los angeles
Most every bit of the Radiohead ouvre is ouvre-rated. heh.

Pedro, Grangemouth
Definitely Maybe - Oasis. A tribute band to mediocrity. Overhyped rubbish that should never have been encouraged to get up off its arse and leave the pub rock covers band circuit it was destined for! Coldplay's latest was laughably praised on these shores as well (Imagine the US spotting the hype and not us!!!)

Chris Noble Basingstoke
Great Story, but what are you all thinking of. Remember Bat out of Hell!!!!!

Jack, Gloucester
Anything with Ian Brown singing on it...i know it's not on the list, but people should be made aware of his inability to sing before wasting some of their lives on trying to like it...

Simon, Edinburgh
"Grace" by Jeff Buckley has got to be one of the most overrated albums of all time. I bought it because of a friend of mine recommending it to me all the time and they described it to me as kind of Led Zepplin IV meets Love "Forever Changes" meets Jane's Addiction so my expectations were really high. Imagine my dissapointment when I stuck it on to hear that it sounds like just another post-grunge album played by a bunch of over-privileged New York coffee bar types with nothing to say for themselves. Who cares how many octaves Jeff could reach with his voice? He sounds like Freddy Mercury fer Chissakes. I'll admit that "Mojo Pin" is an okay song and should be how the rest of the album should sound. The song "Eternal Life" (with slap bass) is a particularly dated Alice in Chains/RHCP rip off that sounds like just about every other useless unsigned band that plays around where I live (Edinburgh) and as for the slower songs (Lilac Wine, Hallelujah, Corpus Chisti Carol), all I can say is.... man that guy had a stick up his butt.

Mark Davies - Cardiff
I have tried and tried to listen to Astral Weeks by Van Morrison, in an attempt to work out why it is regarded a masterpiece. I failed. It just sounds like someone practicing scales one a flute, while Chuckles tries to sing every song using just 3 notes. Lots (all?) of his other albums are better than this dirge.

Loek Hamman, Almere, The Netherlands
And where's he WHY? Your opinion is clear, but plz argument your choice. Not just bully whatever you dislike...

Jacki , Swansea, Wales
Blech!.....Radiohead, morose blah blah blah!! Coldplays 'Fix It' or whatever it's called actually makes me want to be sick with cringing (Scorpions...'Gorki Park' does the same) and while I'm at it....'Stairway to Heaven' by Zeppelin....So over played yet doesn't touch most of their other tracks!! I'm off for a lie down!! XX

Dave Gerrard, Leicester
I suggest Bob Marley in the 'most overrated' category. Vacuous, bland drivel: proof that weed does not make you more creative- it just makes you think you are. You can draw a line straight back to Marley from the Black Eyed Peas.

Guy Vitti USA
Anything by The White Stripes - Pure Amateurs!

indi
let's face it- Girls Girls Girls by Motley Crue was not as great as nostalgia implies. Try to actually listen to the entire thing.. it's really tough...

kevin Bennett, Walsall
I don`t think anybody would say that Sgt Pepper was the best, just the most influential for its time. The problem with this kind of discussion, is it is done with a different set of circumstances to those present at the time. i remember Sgt Pepper being hugely influential at the time. I prefer the White Album. Everything morrisey ever touched is over-rated. I thought that at the time and nothing has changed. Suck on that one!

Carlos, Milan Italy
Everything ever done by Madonna... unlistenable

kev, motherwell
pretty much any of the crap the smiths released, coldplay of the 80's.

Sam - Borehamwood
I can't believe you slated Dark Side of The Moon. I can't believe it at all. I guess that's Robby Williams fans for you though.

Pancake, Bristol
Glad to see at least one person mention Joy Division. All the music critics rave about them, and all the high brow fawn over both them and New Order, when in fact they are truly unlistenable rubbish. Pick any album you like from either of them, and its odds on it is over-rated.

Andy Crawford, Nottingham
Doolittle - Pixies. Sure, this one certainly has some classics - Debaser, Here Comes Your Man & Wave Of Mutilation. But when the tracks stink, they positively honk - La La Love You, Crackity Jones, There Goes My Gun. Overrated albums? How about overrated tracks? Monkey Gone To Heaven. I can hear the screams of disapproval already. Though, to be fair, none of these are as bad as Tony's Theme or Broken Face from Surfer Rosa but that's another story.

Darren, Darlington
Finally someone has the balls to publicly slag Pink Floyd. Dark Side Of The Moon is utter pig-poo. However, the nice, rational side of me is inclined to agree with Chris in Kendal about music being subjective and down to individual opinion

Mike Daly - Cork, Ireland
The Stone Roses debut. funk/dance music by and for white kids who dont have a funky bone in their body. how this gets in anyone's top ten is beyond me. generally music appeals to 4 places-your head, your heart, your feet and your naughty bits. this album fails on all counts and the only defense i can think of is that the late 80's were so bad for pop/rock (hip-hop and dance not so bad) that anything that was half decent seemed a 100 times better than it actually was. No-one will listen to it in 100 years time because it tells us nothing about the time it happened in (as opposed to the clash, pulp, the pistols etc) and its just not as down and groovy as james brown, sly stone, stevie wonder and on and on. It's not the worst album ever by a long shot-it has even got some good songs!but it is nowhere near as good as its made out to be. Pet sounds is over-rated too but it has some eternal and amazing songs. however - astral weeks is impervious to any criticism. forget it boys and girls - you're just wrong-it'll stand.

Flann, London
Whats the Story (Morning Glory)? - Oasis. Everything oasis have ever done is a pile of Cack put this just peaks it. For a band that so badly want to be the Beatles there isn't an awful lot of experimentation or innovation here.

Robert --- Oregon/USA
Definitely Nirvana's (In Utero) or whatever it's called. I realize I'm treading on sacred ground here but the album is just not that important.

Chris Gorst Kendal.
Frankly music is a subjective art from,if you dont like something dont listen to it,there's plenty of great stuff out there,try listening to someone who still makes a living or trys to from music,they need the money & New acts are musics life blood.just a thought.

Robbie, Worcester
I agree that Nevermind by Nirvana is overrated. Maybe it's hearing "Smells Like Teen Spirit", itself an overrated song, too much on music television and radio, but I've always thought that In Utero was the better album.

Tim Pilling. Exeter.
Anything by Oasis

Santa, North Pole
The Stone Roses 1st. 'Closer' by Joy Division. Both white with pimples. Weak, adolescent.

Wesley Winegarden, Rainham, Essex
Coldplay's X&Y, complete and utter rubbish just bland boring music from a band who think they are gonna save the world by not drinking Tetley's tea... Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell, a fat bloke singing about getting laid, not even if a woman died and willed it to him... but the most over-hyped album of all time bar none, Simon and Garfunkle's Bridge over Troubled Water, two New York geeks singing songs of enlightenment, while they secretly want to be singing about how much they hate each other (probably for forcing the other one to sing rubbish tunes). Actually there are too many to mention, loads of over-hyped albums and many that get over-looked.

Chris Edinburgh
Franz Ferdinand

Gareth, Burnley
I'd like to nominate U2's Joshua Tree - It's got three decent tracks on it. That doesn't make it a classic album

Sam Marshall, Greenwich
If I hear one more person spew out how Dark Side of the Moon is the greatest album ever I may justcry/

Beth from Bristol
Nevermind by Nirvana, an easy target, but hey, Soundgarden were always better and even Hole's pretty on the inside still sounds more interesting now than the whiny dead man

Nat, Cambridge
I have to second the White Stripes notion. radiohead overrated? has everyone gone nuts? if we had a time machines, we would go into the future and see that radiohead are remembered as one of the most inventive bands of the 90s/00s. and how can we call albums like St. Pepper's or Dark Side Of The Moon overrated? clearly they have stood the test of time - one of the criteria which makes an album a 'classic' and hence that is why they top the best album polls? Also, adding to the overrated, nobody's mentioned Oasis

General Slug, Manchester
Pretty much anything by U2, I mean for gods sake, there's only so much reverberated guitar and one line choruses you can take before you want to start bashing bono's head in with his own shades.

Gilesy, Granada (Spain)
Pepper just can't be topped - a third of the songs are gratingly irritating. Maxwell's silver hammer and She's leaving home could be used as implements of torture.

Tone Clarke, Manchester
Coldplay. Anything by Coldplay. What have we done to deserve them? And that guy with the wobbly head - White Ladder - I can't remember his name. That Mike Skinner or whatever he calls himself. Oasis. All Poo.

Janice, Epsom
anything by oasis, they are mostly inoffensive, but great albums....nah!

Richard Leek
The most over rated album ever...... anything by queen - not difficult is it?

andrew, reading
the libertines...while you just played the single made me turn off your show for awhile

Toronto, Canada
re: Pet Sounds I agree that the songs themselves are nice, the album is good. But to the people saying it is the Most Over-rated.... they obviously don't know WHY this album is always in the Top 10 of all time. They obviously are ignorant and don't read about it. It is one of Top 10 albums of all time because of what Brian Wilson did in the studio that was ahead of it's time and technology. So what is really one of the Most Over-rated albums of all time.... anything by Oasis.

andy from hamilton
Astral Weeks is rotten to the core.Possibly the worst album ever.You can add that X&Y nonsense from Coldplay.Arena rock?No thanks, we've already got U2 for that and they're utter rubbish too.And don't get me started on The Joshua Tree....

K. Barry Vancouver, Canada
Bat Out of Hell - Meatloaf. What a load of rubbish. To this day I still change the station whenever Meatloaf comes on. Just writing this irritates me (lol).

Rhys (the Jennifer Rush) Miller, Glasgow
London Calling, As much as I respect and like The Clash, London Calling seems to try and squeeze too many musical genres on to not one, but two discs. Imagine what The Clash that sang 'Garage Band' would have thought of 'Lost In The Supermarket' or 'Brand New Cadillac' with a bit of foresight... Bring back the New Boots and Contracts!!

Mark Follows, Leeds
It has to be Sgt.Pepper, really, closely followed by Pet Sounds and Dark Side of the Moon, but the one that really gets my goat is Tubular Bells. Seriously, has anyone ever actually listened to it? It's rubbish. Minimilism for the masses, badly ripped off Steve Reich and Philip Glass by someone who doesn't understand the music he's trying to replicate. Gave Richard Branson an empire, too.

DAVE STUART EPPING
Everything the White Stripes have ever done.

Ciaran, London
That Radiohead album people keep banging on about.

Sean, Harrow
Television's Marquee Moon is one of those albums that every critic loves to froth madly from the mouth over. It's not very good. Moreover, it's rubbish. End of story. By the way, Radiohead's best album is easily Kid A.

Neil Spencer-Jones, Ingleton, North Yorks
Two albums constantly in list of great albums - Beach Boy's Pet Sounds and Van Morrison's Astral Weeks both really overrated. Neither stands the test of time. Van wittering on to a load of tuneless and formless melodies or the Beach Boys with just another 60's bubblegum album.

Beth - Southport, Merseyside
Radiohead - ANYTHING! But especially OK Computer, it's just not as amazing as everyone assumes, I just really really don't see the thing with it...

DIRK ST LOUIS SCARBOROUGH ON THE ROCKS
Can't agree with you comments on Floyd's Dark Side, Mark, but ColdPlay's X&Y has to be the most over hyped and over-rated album of the year by far. I was chuffed to hear the review in Rolling Stone had reduced Chris Martin to a quivering piece of M.O.R APPLE falavoured jelly. Overproduced with a naff cover, mediocre songs at best and a horrible early eighies vibe-it is vastly inferior to "A Rush Of Heinz Ketchup To The Head". Hard-Fi's "Stars Of CCTV" x&ys all over it!

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