damn
im quite shocked at the obviously racist veiws displayed here how many times can the police get it wrong how many innocent people must die, things like this are likely to cause more bombings not prevent them, these people who the police are shooting are just like you imagine they were members of YOUR family. its just not right no matter what excuse you use.
Steve D
This is about accountability. The Police have to account for their actions. This is part of living in a free, democratic country and is a fundimental part of our culture.
People who say we shouldn't question or challenge those in authority are surrendering to the terrorist threat and are the real traitors to the British way of life.
endspo
All those that are so outspoken in the defence of the Police, one easy question for you:-
"Hwo would you feel and react if you or a family member was shot by the Police, held without charge, your house was ransacked, and then you were released without charges?
phil m
This country is british, i know alot of people who are fed up of the way the rights of other nations are put before ours. if i went to any other country id expect to have to follow their rules/ traditions. yet we are expected to change what makes us british to compensate for people who have no respect for us. the police have to do what they think is right for our protection no matter what, unless u would rather have bombs going off
James
There was an interview with a girl who went to school with the 2 boys on tv. she said they used to be normal and then they grew beards. how ridiculous. how on earth can a beard decide if someone is normal or a terrorist.i feel the british and becoming more and more like the american narrow minded stereotypical view - that all muslims,and all bearded people are terrorists.this is just not acceptable in this 'free' living country.they made a mistake with the brazillian guy and now again.how many more shootings will there be.they need to admit there wrong and stop this nonsense.
Heidi
In the United States its called probable cause. No leagal serches is usually done w/ out probable cause or search warrant.
Of course in the state that this world seems to be in. Being overly causious isnt always so bad until I guess it happens to you.
jackson
its true to say better safe than sorry but shoting some one is not that safe from what i hear. im sure they dident need to get that guy shot. police need to learn that because some one is from a moderatly warm country dose not mean there a suicide bomber
KdotT
Cheeks is not rascist, and Blazin J your right this is a muti cultural Society, but its lost its own culture and people are upset about it i think its just a case of remembering that if i wad to go to Pakistan i would respect the fact that women have to be covered up and i would do so for that reason and that sums it up it bolis down to RESPECT to little people these days have respect for them selves let alone culture, religion and other people.
ANON
In London it's a different story, but up north it's definately harder to intergrate, when the culture is going to the pub, musilim's don't drink, there's language barriers, and being called Paki down every road doesn't help. I think it's way more harder for asians to intergrate than you may think. eg completely different culture, morals, religion, values.
And as for the police, they could've just picked a random house to make the public have faith that they are doing something? There was not evidence that the brothers were terrorist. Just like how they did with the Brazillian .... they see a non- english person, they want to shoot.
Q
1 thing that really needs to be cleared up is what exactly is “integration”, because it seems to me that allot of people are justifying that being shot at, having your house raided, being held in a cell for a week and then being let go without charge as something you should expect if you don’t “integrate” in to UK society
P.S once I’ve found out the true meaning of “integration”, I’ll make sure that i and the ones I love join the bandwagon, or else suffer the consequences
some dude
whys colour n poop like that an issue, if the met had siad "were raiding the place coz there muslim" then yea id think it is racist, but they didnt raid it coz of that, look at it this way; one raided house,,or numerous amounts of not-needed deaths.
PC
Trust me the Police would not raid a house for no reason. SO13 has very good sources and intel. They would have had eyes on the house for weeks. There is something not right there. People moaning about the heavy handed action taken by the Police should remember 7/7 what would you have said if these brothers blew up something in London and killed your family members. Leave the Police to do their jobs.
B
Police are idiots! why use so much force! houses can be searched in a calm way! not raided!
GNVilla
All those people saying the cops shouldn't have shot him. You guys try going into a situation where you've been told they have chemical bombs and weapons etc. and try and keep your finger off the trigger. If i was put in that situation I know i would have shot the guy naked or not naked, black, white or asian.
OK the guys are supposedly innocent (think there's more to it) but better safe than sorry. If the cops didn't do anything about it and these guys did set off a chemical bomb in the heart of London, millions would be dead and the police would have hell to pay!!
JMD
wt disgusts me is that the government is justifyin it dats jus wrong u get me!
wt will hppen if an innocent man duz actuallly die wil he stil justify it then
Chris
Better safe than sorry. The police don't just march in on ANYONE (usually) - there's obviously a reason why a house was raided, even if the public aren't privvy to the intelligence behind the raid.
bristol bwoy
its defently true better safe than sorry but the whole change of culture is a concept of freedom if people do live in this country they should respect are culture and,what could be destroyed. weve let more imagrants into this country than we should have its a fact ,we have no number of illegal so it all adds up. slowly this country is going to boil down to such non english country it will just turn into baghdad if anti terrorism police are not firm.if they have a right to be in are country we should have a right if suspicision of terroism to be firm to say sorry was wrong and a sign of weakness.
Kevin Brown
Police keep calling the information they recieve inteligence. I see nothing inteligent about the shooting of an innocent man last summer or the attack on the two brothers last week. Maybe they should reconsider the word inteligence for something else.
L Dot zee
it does not take rocket science to see that the metropolitan police have been very heavy handed recently. It is not fair that the muslim community are constantly targeted for terrorism. The raid i think was hilarious. What sort of civilised people march through someones home at 4 am with 250 friends and shoot an inocent man in his chest. It is clear that the police felt the need to investigate A POSSIBLE terrorist attack. However i do not like the way that this source of information that provided the police with their belifs has not been mentioned at all in the media neither has it been mentioned by Mr.Blaire. It is obvious that the police here have made a big mistake and whether or not a shabby apologie will fix the damage to the muslim community is yet to be seen.
Pretty Nikki
Police shootin innocent people at random...
whats new?
the police have to fix up.
the muslims need to make more of an effort to intergrate in britain, the choose to distance themselves on purpose.
Raffa
Mr Cheeks > Growing of the beard is a part of a muslims religion. Just cos this isnt a muslim country does it mean that you cant be a muslim, i.e. practice your religion? Why do ikhs wear turbans in England it aint a sikh country, its just an expression of their faith.
Misszola
I think the police were right to raid a property they thought was holding bomb making material, but to shoot the guy, wearing boxer shorts ? As for the ignorant remark above they dont grow their beards to look like their from Pakistan or wherever! Its because as a Muslim they arent allowed to cut it! I do think that we will see more raids on random houses to info the Police recieve but there is the saying 'no smoke without fire' , what if the Police had ignored this and it turned out to be a holding place for chemicals? They'd look bad either way. One thing that angers me is the way the Police said 'expect to see more raids like this one.'.....does this mean if your Muslim ...watch out? ONE LOVE
leanne
they were right to raid the house but they were not right to go into the house and no warn who they were and they were no need to shoot him i dont think it was an accident at all they wanted to set an example to other people to keep them in line but i think it will back fire in the future
Bakunin
when they shoot first and ask questions later, its wrong, these cops are trained to recognise a posible situation and deal with it, to up hold the law and protect a state and all who live in it, not to act on spurious information from a grass and go in like an army and alienate people. All i all its political its about politicians and legislation we are sleep walking into a police state, you may not be worried cos youre not a muslim or even black but where will it stop.
Don L
It's disgusting how the brothers try to manipulate the media to gain the sympathy of the British public.
perimiter
listen, if the police have suspicions that they are making the bomb then they shud raid the house, but the police are so dumb that they get it rong and end up shooting an innocent guy. if that happened to you how the hell wud you feel. this aint right you cant just start making random raids on innocent muslims just because they dress different and act different. it kinda feels like they only got shot cuz they are muslim. also how the hell is this gna help race relations. not all muslims wana be terrorrists sum of them integrate with society, how those people gna feel about this. they aint gna feel more welcome in society are they, if they hear that their brothers are getting shot for being under suspicion. safe.
Nicky
Just because people live here in britain it doesnt mean that they should forget there roots but at the same time, yes, i beleive they should also respect british ways. does anyone ever complain when a black man has dreds?? i
think this was completely wrong and the police could have gone around it in a better way if they had strong suspicions about these men.
Aisha
I think everyone is innocent until proven guilty. These men were assumed guilty by the media even before anything was found and in this country everyone just believes what the media says.
Blazin Joint
Ur racist cheeks. UK is multi cultulural city
Jen
It seems that in this world if you have dark skin and a beard then you are a threat to society. We are turning into a society that shoots first and thinks later. I doubt the police would be so quick to shoot a white man. Check out Mos Def's web pages and see what we all dont want to become. Peace to all.
J
police need to recognise the boundaries between terrorism, and the prejudices and stereotypes evolving around terrorism today. It needs to stop before terrorism becomes a definition to which the police could be associated with themselves!
Jason F
Better safe than sorry
Blazin Joint
they only think its muslim who are making the bombs. It could be anyone. The police hates muslim people. Why did they shoot him? He didn't do anything wrong. He didn't break da law. Soon in UK they're going to start making a law which will make da police shoot on da muslim and prosecute dem innocently.
Mr Cheeks
Maybe if they made more attempt to adapt to the British society they live in, then no one would be so suspicious of them. For example this is not a muslim country so why do they believe they have to grow a bread and shave their heads. They are making a agressive statement without realising. I think the police were right, the raid was a defense of British values and culture. No one wants London to be called Londonstan in twenty years from now.