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1XTRA NEWS: THE REAL TALK OF THE STREETS
Is MOBO ban fair?
Vybz Kartel at Germany's Summerjam
What do you think of the MOBOs?
The MOBO awards have decided to ditch Elephant Man and Vybz Kartel from the shortlist for best reggae single.
MOBO organisers wanted the pair to send written apologies for anti-gay lyrics in some of their early tracks – but didn’t receive them.

Are the organisers making a fair stand?  Or is this hyping the debate about dancehall and homophobia?

Vybz apologised on BBC radio for his past lyrics and explained he has learned a lot and changed the tone of his words over the years.
Do you think the MOBOs are just bowing to pressure? What do you think of the MOBOs since they made this decision? Is the best reggae category devalued or improved?

Alex
Black gays have to face the prejudice of racism. They should not have to face homophobia in their own communities as well. This ban is fair and just. The MOBOs was set up in part because of prejudice against black people. Why should the MOBOs support another type of prejudice? It would be a contradiction to the extreme. Well done the MOBOs! The persecuters of black gay people in Jamaica should not be awarded here in the United Kingdom.

golddigga
Homophobia is as unacceptable as racism and should not be allowed. If a song came along talking about killing people beacuse of their race, it probably wouldnt even get off the artists notepad, never mind to prestigious award events.

Play nicely children
Come on guys, this isnt about free speech, this is about common sense. If there was any other style of music where murder and hatred of certain groups was repeatedly and shamelessly promoted? If an Indie band brought out a song talking about killing black people, imagine the uproar. whatever peoples views are, they should be prepared to face the consequences of making records about killing and hating gay people, or anyone else for that matter.

King Conrad
Foolishness. The MOBO awards is turning into a joke. What next? Will they soon ban artists that have song tunes that promote 'war' or songs that degrade 'women'? Music is freedom of speech and people forget that Vybz and Ele are entertainers. We are the ones buying their music so we should get to see them perform at the awards. I say the whole has been blown out of proportion. Also why have the MOBO only started now to start banning artists who they feel like.

Lovedaddy
Homophobia has no place in music, and the ban should be welcomed. Yes Eminem should have been castigated for his own acts, but that does not excuse Dancehall performers. They should be more passionate about the problems on the Island of JA (scheduled for 2,000 murders this year) than spouting off about the private lifestyles of others... ...for shame.

bob
if you kick vybz and ele out of the mobos, you best be kicking out every other hip hop artist, because 99% of them sing about killing someone or the other. the only reason anything is being done is because someone complained, so someone complain about 50 cent, and let's see what happens... probably nothing

jay
Do you know it is illegal in Jamaica to have gay sex? Do you boycott the island, and ban them from the international community????

Alex
I'm so glad to see this discussion is taking place. I believe that all people of Caribbean descent should boycott the MOBO awards. While I don't support many of the lyrics of today's dancehall artists I do believe in their freedom of speech. The true political agenda is to state that the Christian beliefs many people of Caribbean descent grew up with are backward and should be silenced.

Kris
Sorry, Tee Tee, but you are talking Raaabish! Are you saying that incitement to killing of gay people is only accepted by "others" outside of the Black community? If these were rock artists with the same lyrics, the same standards would be applied. I realise in the past this wasn't the case (Guns N Roses in the 1990's for example with their track ONE IN A MILLION) but times have changed, and homophobia has joined Racism in being viewed as totally unacceptable in modern society. Big up the MOBOs for banning them.

bruvvabuoy
TOTALLY fair. But probably far too late to save the reputation of the MOBOs. And it's gutting to be reminded that there are so many black Nazis out there. As for the mob of dazed and confused, bum-scratching 'sympathisers', attempting to excuse these lyrics - you people are so pathetic and, worse still, you bring utter shame and derision on black people the world over.
Free speech should never include the incitement to kill or even hate people - especially for something as predetermined as a person's skin colour or sexuality (I don't include religion here, as that's a choice). Do us all a favour, people - pick your knuckles up off the floor and tackle the real enemy, not one you've created inside your tiny little minds.

rodney
Who is peter tatchell and why does he have so much power over our music? Let him take care of his own business and let music express itself freely as it was intended to do. WHO DONT LIKE IT TURN IT OFF!!!!

C-Dude
Music is an expression, and the banned artists have their right. Besides, how can there be freedom of speech when there's petty censorship like this?

DAN
I THINK ITS POINTLESS. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT MUSIC AND NOT PEOPLES PAST. WHAT ABOUT EMINEM AND HIS HOMOPHOBIC LYRICS?

Uzo Madu
The category has definitely been devalued. Vybz Kartel and Elephant Man are very important artists in this category. I do feel that the MOBOs are just bowing down to pressure and are not making a conscious decision on what they want.

LOLITA
NO WAY IS IT FAIR!!!! WHO CARES WHAT THE LYRICS SAY THEIR MUSIC IS GREAT... ANYWAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE FREE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT..... SOME MAY DISAGREE ABOUT IT SOME MAY NOT..... BUT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BANNED!!! I THINK ITS SO UNFAIR...

dougie m
Maybe you guys should get your heads round the WOMAD events and ethos - now THAT's music of black origin! People messing around with musical samples, dripping with gold, spouting misogynist & homophobic lyrics and claiming to be street brothers is hypocritical in the extreme.
Maybe you should listen to musicians and artists who truly find inspiration in their roots and culture, rather than promote violence and macho values. Come on... are you big enough, or is street-cred more important than the music? Martin Luther King must indeed be spinning...

dan@E14
If MOBO supports artists who have hate-inducing material in the public domain, it is not right for the BBC to show it. Race hate, gay hate, sex hate. It's still hate. and it's not right.

betty
i'm quite annoyed about this. if the boot was on the other foot as it were, i.e. gay musicians hating on black people there would be uproar! double standards yet again.

steve
Excellent news that these "artists" have had their nominations withdrawn. There can be no argument that hatred of minorities is a cultural norm. In nominating these people in the first place, the organisers have utterly devalued their awards.

Tee Tee
I've just read that certain artists have been dropped because of previous lyrics and the MOBOs have bowed to pressure from certain groups - in that case these awards shouldn't be called MOBOs, but MOBOADABCO - Music Of Black Origin As Deemed Acceptable By Certain Others!




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